Gnosis Part 15: The Second Atlantis | The Deluge and the Destruction of Tiamaat/Earth

by Wes Penre, June 11, 2020

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In the last article, we got to the point when the Archons had seduced and raped the women of the pure bloodline, mixed their seed with them, and let their artificial Spirit enveloped them. We interrupted the story when the Spirit of Christ decided to return.

So, the archons possessed some of the human bodies, and they had intercourse with women of the pure bloodline. The archons thought that if they could get enough of their kind to do this, they could make them rulers over the humans, finally getting them under their full control. Thus, they created a despicable spirit in line with the True Spirit; they used a mockup of Sophia’s Light. This is obviously what humans want, the archons thought, so they created the despicable spirit. Hence, they gave them some small wisdom, jewelry, and trinkets, etc. They made the incarnated archons their mates to be the Kings and Queens to rule over the rest. They made it into a reward system. “If you do this, we give you the shiny things, you can put on makeup and look pretty,” etc. So, humans started thinking that this is what it’s all about. They still died without having found any truth. And they believed that the Archons, who came here as Kings and Queens, ruled because it was their birth right.

That’s when monarchy and the hierarchal structure began. Humans thought that governments and kings would save them. This belief has continued through the ages, and this is what the masses believe up to this day[1].

Now, let us return to the Flood story.

Norea Destroys Three Arks

The Seth bloodline, while in the Second Atlantis, mostly resided in what we now call Egypt. This is why the WPP mentions that Egypt was the land of the Mother Goddess.

From what it seems, close before the return of Christ, the Archons decided to create a Great Flood.

The rulers took counsel with one another and said, “Come, let us cause a flood with our hands and obliterate all flesh, from man to beast.” But when the ruler of the forces came to know of their decision, he said to Noah, “Make yourself an ark from wood that does not rot and hide in it, you and your children and the beasts and the birds of heaven from small to large—and set it upon Mount Sir.”

The Hypostasis of the Archons

The Archon who put himself in charge of the plan then tried to trick Noah into building himself a wooden ark, just like the Bible says. But who was this “ruler of the forces?” Was it Yaldabaoth, or was it…Belias/Marduk? According to other ancient texts, such as the Enûma Eliš, it was Marduk who put himself in charge of the destruction of Tiamaat (Earth). Either way, Noah was tricked in the beginning and did build an ark.

Norea was a daughter of Eve, according to The Hypostasis of the Archons. As we know by now, “daughter” could mean both physical daughter and “spiritual daughter,” or both at the same time. It does say in the Gnostic texts that Norea inhabited Zoë Sophia’s soul. In some of the texts she is called Achamoth Sophia, or just Achamoth. This would be the part of Sophia who descends and gets incarnated in the flesh.

Norea tried to board the ark but was stopped. She then burned the ark down to the ground, where after Noah built another ark, which she destroyed as well. She even set a third ark on fire.

Then,

For rain showers of god almighty will pour down so that he can destroy all flesh from the earth, using what is around them, along with people from the seed of those who received the life of knowledge. That life of knowledge came from your mother Eve and me.  They were strangers to him. Afterward great angels come on high clouds, who take those people where the spirit of life lives… The whole multitude of flesh will be left behind in the waters.

The Apocalypse of Adam

It’s clear that the Archons wanted to destroy their own creation, but at the same time, they wanted to preserve the pure bloodline to use on a new Earth, where they could mix their seed with them and once and for all control the Spirited ones. To their frustration, Norea stood up against them so that Noah could not fulfill his purpose to build an ark to survive the Flood.

As a side note: something we might want to keep in mind is what we have discussed in earlier articles. Depending on the context, Adam is not one single person—it’s a race. It’s the “black race” I discussed in the Wes Penre Papers (WPP) but without the typical Negroid features. The same goes for Noah. There was a man called Utnapishtim in the old Sumerian myth, but Noah is also a title for the Spirited humans who were of Seth’s pure bloodline. Thus, it was not only one family that was hidden in the “luminous cloud,” but the collection of humans who were able to wake up enough to let Spirit run through them.

Eleleth and Christ Descend into Atlantis

After Noah had failed at building the arks, Barbelo of the Pleroma, who had emanated as the Aeon Eleleth in the Kenoma, descended to give Knowledge to Noah. When Noah saw he had been deceived by the Rulers, he followed Eleleth.

They entered a place. They were hidden in a luminous cloud. And he understood his authority. And she who belongs to the light was with him for she illumined them…

The Secret Book of John (long version)

Christ now descended to help the Spirited humans to wake up, and he brought with him Sabaoth and his angels (the MIKH-MAKH warriors and the Vulcans in the WPP) to assist in the process. That started the War in Heaven, or the War of the Titans, as discussed in Greek mythology, the Enûma Eliš, and other ancient texts.

Therefore I [Jesus Christ/Khan En.lil], the perfect Pronoia of the All, changed into my seed. For I existed from the first, traveling on every road. For I am the wealth of the light. I am the remembrance of the fullness. I traveled into the vastness of the dark, and I persevered until I entered the midst of the prison. And the foundations of chaos quaked. And I hid myself from them because of their evil, and they did not recognize me.

Again I returned for the second time and I traveled. I came forth into those who belong to the light, which is I, the remembrance of the Pronoia. I entered the midst of the dark and the inside of Hades, seeking to put my household in order. And the foundations of chaos quaked such that (it seemed) they would fall down upon those who dwell in the chaos and destroy them. And again I fled up to my luminous root so that they would not be destroyed before the time was right.

Still for a third time, I who am the light that exists in the light and the remembrance of the Pronoia, I traveled in order to enter into the midst of the darkness and the inside of Hades. I filled my countenance with the light of the consummation of their aeon. And I entered the midst of their prison, which is the prison of the body. And I said, ‘Whoever hears, arise from lethargic sleep!’

The Secret Book of John (long version)

The Flood and the Destruction of Tiamaat

While battling the rulers of Darkness, Jesus Christ (Christ who had emanated and now dwells in the Eighth and Ninth Heaven) also approached the Spirited humans to have them wake up. However, because Yaldabaoth and his Rulers had polluted the bloodline and started a Flood, time was short, and the Spirited humans were not yet awake. Most of them didn’t heed his call.

And he [Yaldabaoth] caused a flood, and he destroyed your race, to take the light and to take away from faith.

The Paraphrase of Shem

There was more happening than just a Flood and the destruction of a planet. In the WPP, I wrote that Sabaoth/Ninurta withdrew and eventually escaped from the inferno that was taking place. Because of the actions of the Rulers, described above, it was not possible to redeem Yaldabaoth at this time, and because the latter had decided to destroy his own creation, there was not much the Spirited forces could do at that moment.

Then fire and sulfur and asphalt are cast upon those people, and fire and blinding mist come over those realms, and the eyes of the powers of the luminaries  are darkened, and the inhabitants of the realms cannot see in those days.

The Apocalypse of Adam

Moreover,

But God [Yaldabaoth and his archons] bade each drop pass through Gehenna before it fell to earth, and the hot rain scalded the skin of the sinners [humans].

The Book of Noah[2]

The above indicates that the hot rain was not water but lava from erupting volcanoes.

Consequently,

And great clouds of light descend, and other clouds of light come down on them from the great eternal realms. Abrasax and Sablo and Gamaliel  descend and bring those people out of the fire and the wrath, and take them above the eternal realms and the rulers of the powers, and take them away . . . there with the holy angels and the eternal beings. The people will be like those angels, for they are not strangers to them. But they work with the imperishable seed

The Apocalypse of Adam

Thus, the souls of the Spirited humans, whose bodies were dying in the Flood, were lifted out of the inferno and into the higher Heavens, while the destruction was completed.

The heaven and his earth were destroyed by the troublemaker that was below them all. And the six heavens shook violently; for the forces of chaos knew who it was that had destroyed the heaven that was below them. And when Pistis knew about the breakage resulting from the disturbance, she sent forth her breath and bound him and cast him down into Tartaros.

On the Origin of the World

Yaldabaoth Being Cast down and Sophia Sealing Her Heaven

Not only did the Earth (Tiamaat) in the Third Heaven get destroyed, but the entire Kenoma was shaking in its foundations during this incident, and the Chief Ruler was cast down into Tartaros (somethings spelled Tartarus), or the Abyss. Tartaros are the realms of the Underworld, and the Abyss is its lowest part. We, the current human civilization, exist together with Yaldabaoth in the Underworld. The Archons and their offspring still reside in the Seven Heavens, however—it was only Yaldabaoth who was cast down.

Sabaoth, together with his angels (the Vulcans/Vegas in the WPP) and human souls and Spirit, went through the Saturn stargate between the Seventh and Eighth Heaven, and the stargate closed behind them. Since then, the Saturn stargate has been guarded from both sides.

… and [Sophia] sealed her heaven until the consummation of the age.

The Origin of the World

That was the end of Tiamaat and the Second Atlantis. In the next sequence of this story, we will discuss how Yaldabaoth continued his creation on the new Earth in the Underworld from the “remnants” of the previous one, as mentioned in the Enûma Eliš. That is where we live now—a much denser and more solid material realm than that of the Second Atlantis.

Did Noah and his “Family” Survive the Flood?

In the Bible it says that Noah and his “family” physically survived the Flood, but that is not my interpretation when I read the Gnostic texts. Everybody died because Earth/Tiamaat was destroyed, but when Yaldabaoth continued in our current construct, the Spirited Genuine Souls with some dormant Spirit attached, were once again inserted into new homo sapiens sapiens bodies and thus continued the pure Seth bloodline, which is the metaphor of a bloodline free from pollution and corruption by the Rulers. In the continuation of this story, we will include quotes that indicate that this is how it was done. The Rulers, on the other hand, when the human Spirit/Soul group descended again, continued the contamination of human bodies and minds, exactly like before the Flood, but at least one bloodline remained pure and wasn’t polluted with “bad seed”—at least up and through the incarnation of Jesus 2,000 years ago.

Why did we Return to Yaldabaoth’s new Earth?

So, why did Spirit incarnate again into this current Earth? It’s because the mission was still not fulfilled. We understand that people might be frustrated and angry over how we’ve been treated throughout our lifetimes in the Kenoma, but we need to learn to look at this from a spiritual perspective—as Observers with a bird-eye view. Our mission is to wake Yaldabaoth up, so the Kenoma can be dissolved and all Spirit retrieved.

Already when Yaldabaoth created the first set of physical bodies in the Second Atlantis, he didn’t realize that Sophia/Christ and the Aeons were going to use his own creation against him (or for his benefit, depending on how we look at it). The Divine saw an opportunity to wake Yaldabaoth up from within his own construct. If Spirit would descend in a more or less dormant form into Yaldabaoth’s mimicked/copied physical bodies, we could slowly wake up from within, connect to Spirit, and thus also wake up Yaldabaoth enough for Christ/Light to eventually descend and do the rest. True Light (we humans) would arise in the Demiurgic construct and successively wake the Chief Ruler up. This is, and has always been, our mission. We knew that it would be a tough job, but it has to be done.

Our Resistance to Waking up to Spirit

Many humans might feel resentment when they read the WPP and/or the Gnostic texts, and that’s understandable. Just remember that we are neither body nor soul—we are Spirit, and we are not of the Kenoma. Spirit is not traumatized—it’s only the Kenoma part of us that is; the part of us that lives in ignorance. The resentment comes from our ignorant part (Sophia’s ignorance). It’s the resistance against waking up. When we wake up to Knowledge and are receiving Gnosis, our attitude will automatically change.

Also, once everything is over, none of us will linger on any of that which has happened to us while we were on our mission. Spirit does not feel resentment, and time is not a factor in the Spiritual Realms. Just like digging ditches and do dirty work might not be very pleasant, it sometimes needs to be done. On a larger scale, our spiritual mission can be viewed from that same perspective.

Here is another thing we need to understand. We, the human soul group (the Spirited humans) don’t have our entire Spirit inside our bodies—we still reside in the Pleroma, and to a certain degree in Orion (the Eighth and Ninth Heavens). A spark of Spirit was put inside our physical bodies, but just enough to use as a catalyst for waking up, so our entire Spirit can eventually flow through us like a river. That’s what Gnosis is.

What we do possess, however, is a Genuine Soul, which is (like we have discussed in previous articles) an intermediary that is searching for Spirit, and when Spirit is found through Gnosis, it can freely flow through us like a river, where after we can shine our Light within the Construct.

Therefore, while incarnated in the physical realm, we are mainly a Genuine Soul, searching for Spirit, in contrast to the artificial soul/spirit that is of Yaldabaoth and does not search for Spirit because it doesn’t know Spirit and what Spirit is.

Thus, when we were retrieved from this construct during the Flood, it was our Genuine Soul with sparks of Spirit attached that were returning to the Upper Heavens. Most of our Spirit has always been residing in the Pleroma, and to some degree in Orion.

Where did all the Souls Go?

Where did the deceased humans go when the Second Atlantis/Tiamaat was destroyed? Well, we know that Sabaoth saved his angels and took humans (the soul/spirit part of them) with him through the Saturn stargate into Orion, which was also discussed in the WPP, but we don’t know for sure if that included all human souls.

If we put together what we’ve learned from the WPP and the Gnostic texts so far, it makes sense to me that Spirited souls in the Second Atlantis were in different states of development, just like we are now. On top of that, the archons inserted themselves into the Divine bloodline and corrupted most of it before the Flood, which affected the Genuine soul’s development and made people more ignorant. Therefore, it would be logical to think that some souls, when they died in the Flood incident, were ready to go to Orion, while others were not. Those who were not went to the Fifth Heaven after death and waited there until the new construct, which we live in now, was ready to receive them.

It is my interpretation that those who followed Sabaoth into Orion later might have decided to reincarnate into a new pure bloodline in this new construct because the mission to withdraw all Spirit from the Kenoma was still not accomplished and still isn’t. This new bloodline or bloodlines are technically not a direct continuation of the Adam and Seth bloodline because the Flood killed everybody, but in an abstract sense, they are. The important thing was not, as I see it, that the bloodline came from Seth—the important thing was that it remained pure, so Jesus could funnel the full Christ Spirit through his body. The souls who potentially reincarnated from Orion after the Flood had more Knowledge than the rest of the human soul group because of the Knowledge they received from Eleleth, and therefore, they probably knew that they needed to keep one or more bloodlines pure and not interbreed and be corrupted by the archons.

Uranus and Neptune

While we are still discussing Tiamaat, I want to add something just for curiosity. Uranus is Khan En.lil’s planet, and if we look up in our current limited heaven, we see that Uranus, or rather the reflection of the real Uranus, is located outside Saturn, which is the Seventh Heaven. In a previous article, we mentioned that the first Tiamaat was located between the Seventh and Eighth Heavens, which at that time was Khan En.lil’s (Jesus Christ’s) realm. Yaldabaoth and the Archons did have access to Khan En.lil’s Realm at the time, as discussed in the WPP, and Yaldabaoth, in his usual manner, then probably created Neptune as a mimic/copy of the original Tiamaat and called it his.

We will continue our story with what happened after the Flood in an upcoming article, so stay tuned.


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[1] Musings based on The Secret Book of John (long version)

[2] The Book of Noah is a Hermetic text, so what is written in it is seen from an archontic perspective.

References and Resources:

The Secret Book of John (long version)

On the Origin of the World

The Hypostasis of the Archons

The Apocalypse of Adam

The Paraphrase of Shem

The Book of Noah

The Enûma Eliš

The Wes Penre Papers

53 comments

  1. Something is definitely up. This getting everyones DNA….my feeling all along is they are looking for certain people. Certain bloodlines. I haven’t done DNA testing because something tells me not to. Curiouser and curiouser. I am just curious as to what the catalyst will be to initiate a mass awakening.

  2. Hmm
    ..they are desperate in finding the pure bloodline now.. thats why they want to vaccinate all humans just to.pollute all bodies on earth so that there will be no vessel available when the christ return.. brilliant idea huh.. but stay calm God is always has a plan 😊😊😊

        1. Probably the Solar Flash mentioned at the end of each cycle will awaken humanity. The is supposed to be a worldwide happening in ‘dream’ time. Upon awakening many will know who they really are, then the veil will descent and the ‘solar flash’ dream will fade….
          The word ‘Christ’ refers to the Christ Conscience Grid’ which surrounds the Earth and was destroyed at the end of the last cycle. This Grid was rebuilt and came into being in 2008. Jesus could not ascend his body without the grid so he resurrected his body.
          We are the ones we have been waiting for ‘to ascend’!
          The above is based on my own studies and belief system. If this contradicts your belief system just toss it away.
          As the Gnostic text stated ‘external messages are the ‘spark’, The truth is in your meditations’ which for me means your truth is based on your energy frequency….and subject to change as your friquency rises!

  3. Does this mean that the planet Neptune is Yaldabaoth’s domain? including the 12th house of the zodiac pisces constellation as Neptune is the ruling planet for pisces? Does this also mean that in a natal chart those that have a lot of 12house, Neptunian energy are being confined more into this matrix because Yaldabaoth build it and is his home?

    I use to follow astrology very deeply but now I know its the oldest religion in our history. and should only be used as a stepping stone to propel outwards into the cosmos. As astrology is not fixed as they say it is and humans really do not know how to chart the time and birth coming into the world to determine exactly the life of the individual. it could be like the artificial soul/sprit.

    I do however believe that the zodiac is intelligent and capable of setting barriers and or fortune into the lives of humans. but its like trying to escape prison or run from an energy that has had time in perfecting itself.

    I am just trying to understand the relation to Yaldabaoth-Neptune, and Astrology in the 12thouse, Neptune, Pisces correlation. there has to be one as Astrology ties itself so much to Spirituality.

    Thank you.

    1. The ‘celestial bodies’ we see in the sky (and in telescopes) are the the real “planets,” so to speak. It’s not that they don’t exist, but they are copies or reflections of something grander and ‘higher’ in the heavens. What we see is more like dead rocks. Whether the archons have access to Neptune in the higher heaven at this time, I don’t know.

      Astrology is very important and has to do with the fate of humanity, and it highly influences us. We are going to make an article about astrology in the near future, from a Gnostic perspective. It’s important.

  4. Since Gnosis 14 I’ve been feeling that I was originally from ‘outside’ this universe and that I had projected a ‘fragment’ of myself into this universe to help in the awakening of humanity (?). I always thought it was ours and the ETs job to dissolve the Yaldabaoth and not to save him. On the other hand I was not aware we were living in the ‘underworld’ and existed in an ‘unbalance’ universe! A lot to absorb but everything you mentioned make sense to me and forces me to think outside of my own ‘belief’ system..
    I would like you to confirm for me that the ‘Queen’ who lived in Orion in our universe is also a ‘fragment’ of the true Queen who resides in Orion of the ‘other’ universe?
    Did I get all of the above wrong?
    Thank you and blessings to you for sharing your amazing research with us.

    1. @Sally Toy – No, you are not wrong. 🙂

      Yes, there is an aspect of the Divine Feminine in ALL realms within this Universe. She is called by different names depending on which realm we are describing. Queen of Orion was the name Wes gave Her when writing his papers. She has many names, but all of them represent the Feminine aspect of Divine Creation and all of them are Her.

      “Orion” is a very high state of being or position within this Universe that is directly connected *both* with this lower Universe (Demiurge) AND the Perfected State of Being known as the Pleroma. It is through that connection, that She provides, which enables the potential for us to connect with that Perfected State of Being. We have been calling that connection Spirit. Therefore, one of the aspects of Her which is represented in *this* realm is US. She’s everywhere, ultimately, because this Universe was realized through Her. Does this make sense? If not, we can discuss it more to see if it can be made clearer.

      1. I agree with you Aria. I somehow came to the conclusion their is a ‘god spark’ within all of us and on all ‘types of beings on Gaia. It is this ‘God Spark’ that gets triggered by an ‘external’ word that forces a person to think beyond self. I also feel at that point when the spark is fired, a person is ‘guided’ to ‘go within’ to expand one’s understanding or what I called ‘curiosity’.

  5. Everything around us is a distraction from going within?”they” are working 1000000%,it seems. 🙂 Our resistance to waking up,comes from our minds.I see this,I know this!

  6. I’m confused. Why would Norea burn Noah’s arks three times if she was supposed to be on his side?

    1. @Evelyn …. Because it was Yaldabaoth’s team who suggested that Noah build an ark, so they could ensnare him. Norea stopped that plan, and Noah and other awakening souls were instead taken into safety.

  7. Thanks for this new point of view, it gives me a lot to reflect on. Just as Ariel I feel unlikely that Christo descend again and incarnate in a human being, I believe that all this already depends on us, being able and being prepared to receive it, but I find it hard to believe at this point that Yaldabaoth has redemption for how Global events and humanity are unfolding and I am very sorry for Sophia, because he himself is not complete, he is ill and increasingly acts more out of himself so much that he has almost become an AI, I am sorry to feel this and I feel more sorry for Sophia and as a mother I put myself in her position and I feel a lot of compassion for him, but at the moment I find it hard to see hope.

    I have questions regarding the historical details that I like so much.
    The remains of buildings that we often classify as antediluvian, those cyclopean stone constructions amalgamated with each other and that we find both in Egypt and in Peru and in other parts of the world are indeed remains of the second Tiamaat, it is the sphinx part of the Matriarchal Egypt to put it in some way, is it possible that these constructions have withstood such destruction? Either they are part of the earliest civilizations in this last construct. Is the theory of petrified beings still held due to the destruction of the second Tiamaat or are they part of other destructive events that clearly continued to occur here in the underworld? Thanks in advance. Hugs.

    1. My own hypothesis regarding at least some of the pyramids and the petrifaction is that they are “remnants” from the Second Atlantis descended to this more solid realm. I’m even starting to think that the dinosaurs might not be what people think they were. During the War of the Titans, “monsters” were used in both sides of the battle, as told in the WPP and in the miniseries on this blog. What if the dinosaurs were monsters used in battle?

      1. Dude I thought of that many times. One guess which dinosaur Thoth used as his Mount? Hint: it has to do with his Aztec name: Quetzalcoatl. This feathered dinosaur had descendants the Aztecs and their chiefs plucked feathers from and wore intheir headdress. The feathers were said to be emerald in color. Freaking Thoth loves green I guess, emerald tablets, feathers, etc.

        Do you believe those tablets are genuine? I’ve heard speculation they were written by an occult insider

        1. Yes, I personally believe the message from Thoth in the Emerald tablets are genuine. They make all the sense in context when we put the whole picture together.

  8. When you describe the Adamic race being black with no negroid features , I thought of the aboriginals of Australia; known for being the oldest race in the planet. What are your thoughts?

    1. The black race originated in the Second Atlantis, and during the Flood, everybody died (physically). Then, an “upgraded” (I would call it downgraded) homo sapiens sapiens was created in THIS construct. The first ones were probably black, as well, but if they resembled the aboriginals in Aus., I don’t know…

      1. Wes/ Aerial we recently came up with the idea that since we must recycle until awakening to ZS’s Spirit that rises above reason ie mind/ artificial soul. Our Observation is that we experienced other races during our 1000 years existence. So that said we must not place an anchor on the race we are experiencing this final mission before heading back to the Pleroma.

  9. @Wes @Ariel, i have always wondered…can using electricity be considered as exploitation of living nano- or sub-atomic? beings?
    And, are electrons living conscious beings, or are there conscious beings inside electrons?…Or are there beings, just like human NPCs/organic portals, inside electrons?

    1. Electricity in the Patrix is based on an atomic foundation. The Kenoma/KHAA is built from an electrical foundation, not atomic. So, the electricity in the Patrix is just a simulation of “real” electricity.

  10. I visited the second Eden . Being from the second or third construct, It’s indeed extremely tough to rise above this polatized matrix and once successful, you realize this Eden, is not as perfect as you thought. I remember saying ”Mission done” but the lady who welcomed me was not so happy. This is what Eve is probably experiencing… Harassed, Rejected and isolated in the archonic kingdom without really feeling at home in the Plemora, despite the fact that we are first Spirited and the body an illusion.

    1. Right! The only REAL “Eden” was the First Atlantis/Tiamaat in the upper realms. That’s before we descended into Yaldabaoth’s bodies of matter. We now exist in very dense matter, and that’s probably the reason why Christ came here 2000 years ago to give us the Knowledge/Light that he considered that we needed in order to fulfill our part of the mission. We couldn’t do it without it.

      1. Sorry, I needed to offload my anger and sorrow to rise above my disregard for the concept of God. However humans first need to transcend polarities and connect a state of balance before committing to any gnostic doctrine. In that matter few paths are better than others. Most of what they promote is corrupted

        1. That’s perfectly fine (offloading your anger). Yes, we need to be balanced enough, at least, to be drawn to the Gnostic texts and the Message, I believe. There is corruption in virtually everything that is written on spiritual subjects, IMO, but there is also truth in many of them. All we humans can do, from our perspective, is to search until we find the Truth that ignites Spirit to the extent that Spirit starts flowing freely through soul, mind, and body. Even the Gnostic texts are corrupted to a certain degree–intentionally by some and unintentionally by others–but for me, the Gnostic texts were the ones that ignited Spirit in me and started the flow (the “river”).

      2. Hi Wes, so are you saying that the Jesus Christ that was here 2000 years ago in flesh and blood was not Thoth but the True Christ Consciousness? Good stuff by the way answering a lot of questions that I still had. Thanks

        1. @Anon – “Hi Wes, so are you saying that the Jesus Christ that was here 2000 years ago in flesh and blood was not Thoth but the True Christ Consciousness? Good stuff by the way answering a lot of questions that I still had. Thanks”

          Both. There was the original and there was also a mimic by way of Thoth. Thoth took the original messages given by Christ, co-opted them, distorted them, and presented them as secret knowledge and truth from *his* perspective.

  11. @Wes @Ariel, what is Kenoma? What is KHAA? Is it other names for the reincarnation Construct created by AiF/archons, or it’s something else?

    1. @Robin Obinray – Kenoma is this Universe or Demiurgic creation. Some people call it the matrix. It is also what we call the Void. The KHAA (in the WPP) would be the same thing with one additional aspect included – the upper 8th and 9th “Heavens” or the “Orion Empire”. The KHAA is the totality of the Kenoma AND the Orion Empire (8th/9th), together. Make sense?

  12. Questions without answers. Does the monad have a consort? Looks like we were intended to create realms in the pleroma like the eons only better. That does indeed jive with the wpp and looks like it was Sofia’s function to lay the groundwork.
    Neat stuff fellas!!!

    1. The Monad is everything–it’s what people call Source/First Source/All That Is and more… It is MONO (ONE). Androgyny started with the Aeons.

      1. Can I call him Allah or rabi (ربي)? or this is always the name of yaldabaoth , also does he listen to us if we ask him for help? ,many people pray to the god or ask him for anything are they praying to the real god or to yaldabaoth? I don’t prefer the Loa it will be simple if we ask the god directly our question with out rules

        1. The names/titles you mentioned are Yaldabaoth’s. You ARE Sophia/Christ, so having Spirit within, you are basically asking yourself for help, in a sense–which is perfectly okay! Praying to Christ, Sophia, or the Monad (Source, God, All That Is, Father…whatever you want) can be very helpful to give you strength when you need it. Just try to avoid any names/titles of the Archons and Yaldabaoth. All the Gods of the established religions are Yaldabaoth or his archons. You don’t want to ask them for help.

  13. Hi Wes, I hear Rex from the leakproject invited you on for a conversation I sure hope you do so, as everyone would love to hear another interview with you on all the new research and would reach so many new people out there.

    1. I like Rex very much! I love his enthusiasm and he’s so open to everyone’s point of view and knowledge of any kind, no matter what the subject is. He’s such a great interviewer. 🙂

    2. @Alex, it would great, if @Wes and @Ariel collab with @LeakProject.
      I also like that youtube channel. And the topic of reincarnation (soul trapping + means of escape) is one of the most important in my current incarnation.

      @Ariel @Wes, keep us updated on this.

    3. Wes Please give us a heads up if and when the rex interview is scheduled. Also Ariel please pardon me for spelling your title wrong “Aerial” in a recent post that I can’t locate at this minute.

      1. @Anonymous ~ “Wes Please give us a heads up if and when the rex interview is scheduled. Also Ariel please pardon me for spelling your title wrong “Aerial” in a recent post that I can’t locate at this minute.”

        Wes declined Rex’s invitation for an interview, so there are no plans for that. Also, you can spell my name however you want. No pardon is neccesary. 🙂

  14. @Wes @Ariel, several months ago i watched a video, full of technical details, about restoring data from SSDs. When explaining this technology, you can say simply that in some ways electrons are redirected from the motherboard ans trapped in groups and exploited to serve a collective purpose of making SSD “breathe” and function.
    ( https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Mh3o886qpg&t=5m26s )
    If you compare: in the RAM electrons are stored temporarily until you poweroff a computer; while in SSDs electrons are stored in a (very) long-term fashion. And rn, mostly in the computer gaming world, people often don’t turn off their PCs, but put it into either sleep mode(relatively long-term storage of electrons in the RAM), hybernation(full/partial dump of the RAM with the RAM clearing up) or hybrid combination of these two.

    And then i asked myself few questions: (1)is this how AiF/archons push normalization of exploiting other but smaller (nano-, pico-) beings? (2)Are electrons living (conscious) beings, or do they consist of living beings, or are they worlds/planets/planetary systems with living beings? (3)Are technological details behind SSDs show how some of the worlds (or beings directly), that AiF/archons enslaved after the War in Heaven, are used in a fashion of serving a single-purpose of powering a data/knowledge storage? Or is it attempt and social, experiential experiment to make humans do it first to other beings – and then to see and analyze live results?
    I know for sure, that, on this planet, humanity is used as multi-purpose components. One of the purposes would be to make us reiterate/mirror existentialism of AiF/archons and experience it in their shoes. Another – to, just like you say it, potentially be able to invade the “Orion Empire”(i would question what, how and where it is though🤔). Another one is obviously to redirect most of the energy, that our spirits generate and which actually belongs to us, to them – energy harvesting, accumulation and (re)deployment.
    But are all, without exceptions, of the enslaved worlds have a multi-purpose for AiF/archons, or are some single-purpose(powering something) ?
    I know that in some way, it doesn’t matter much – because both those beings and humans, are exploited, to serve some purpose(s). But i still wanna know the small details.

    Just wanted to share this finding and my thoughts.
    And rn when i type this on my smartphone, i ask a question: if i go deep into the innerlying technology, is my smartphone powered by exploitation and energy draining of (worlds of) conscious living beings?
    I know that in this world, on this planet, parasitism and being predatory is (modified to be) normal, but still.

  15. https://youtu.be/8dEsNP1emLE

    Hi wes and ariel i hope you watch the link ive posted above.. it says if our bodies contaminated by metals and iron that could potentially make us unable to absord the christ spirit..

    I hope you will respond.. thanks..

    1. @Sophia No worries. It has nothing to do with it. It’s up to the soul whether you’ll “absorb” Spirit or not. The soul is the “search engine.” When you find it, you’ll find it. It doesn’t matter if your body has metals/iron in it. The only “truth” in the statement would be that the more toxic the body is, the more attention goes to the body because it doesn’t feel good, and it distracts the soul from searching for Spirit. But I don’t see that as a major problem.

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