by Wes Penre and Ariel Glad, November 22, 2020
Questions in this Q&A:
QUESTION 1: Is Seth, the entity channeled by Jane Roberts, an AIF entity or working with them or independent one? […] What about Abraham-Hicks channeled by Esther Hicks as well as Ask Theo, who is another channeled entity?
QUESTION 2: We are to go inside ourselves for the answers, then what if when we die, we should go inside ourselves to find the truth or way out?
QUESTION 3: You mentioned regarding a question in a recent Q & A that there are physical worlds in the Orion constellation. Is the 8th and 9th Heavens (The Orion Empire) considered 73% material (Dark Matter) while the energetic 23% is more specifically The Void (The Pleroma) based on your research as a metaphysicist? Is there a veil between 9th Heaven and The Pleroma?
QUESTION 4: If these archons cannot create anything on their own, why do they create these so-called false flags, fake pandemics, and other fakeries? Could it be they are just merely copycatting past events from time immemorial and that’s where the term “History repeats itself” comes from?
QUESTION 5: What is the purpose of recycling souls over and over again, like in the movie, “Groundhog’s Day,” for TPTB when doing the same thing over and over and over gets really mundane and useless after a while? Do the archons thrive on routine so much?
QUESTION 6: Is the original Between Lives Area (BLA), which is Mars, still functioning to your knowledge? Are humans that are going to Mars to live out the rest of their lives recycled on Mars just like after the First Atlantis i.e. the first construct?
I am here to tell everybody that..
Blows out all ideas on how to escape.. there is no escape.. what we need to do is to work on ourselves.. you are sovereign being.. work on how to expand your awareness.. we dont neep to escape,we only need how to defend our own conciousness and tell those assholes we are not loser.. we are the winner and they should get the hell out of our own life..
Yes, we need to be in control over our own minds.
Re your answer to Question 3. You say that Orion is “lit up” and the Gnostic texts also say this. What do you mean by lit up? Here, in the underworld, there has been a play on light, so we still see each other, can you help me understand what “lit up” means?
In the Wes Penre Papers, I wrote about the 96% vs. the 4% universe. From our human perspective we can only perceive 4% of the entire universe, and the rest is in “darkness.” But in Orion, the “darkness” is not dark anymore. It’s like when you come into a pitch-black room. You can’t see what’s in the room. You discover a dimmer on the wall, so you gradually turn the knob. I you only turn it a little, only a few % of the room are lit up. But if you turn the dimmer all the way up, you’ll see what’s in the entire room.
You said we will go to were our spirits are vibrationally in tune with, does this mean we HAVE to go through recycling centers or are those just for people who don’t know the truth of how to escape and even if they have been “spiritual;” while here on Earth they will still be recycled just at a different level? Do we not go through the grid anymore, although in a previous question you mentioned the grid still.
Sorry maybe I missed something along the way, im a little confused.
Also, if someone believes they are going to be with the “Divine Couple” when they die, for example with “RadhaKrishna” if they do certain things while they are alive do they actually go there or do they just get recycled again or does Enki/marduk/Shiva/etc actually take their devoted followers to these “heavenly” type places that is still in the 4% trap of what He has put together to serve him?
In my mind I feel that they have used pictures and examples of the True Universe/Pleroma as copies for their own “heavens” and use these descriptions to entice people to give them their energy and then recycle them anyways.
@KTB ~ “Also, if someone believes they are going to be with the “Divine Couple” when they die, for example with “RadhaKrishna” if they do certain things while they are alive do they actually go there or do they just get recycled again or does Enki/marduk/Shiva/etc actually take their devoted followers to these “heavenly” type places that is still in the 4% trap of what He has put together to serve him?”
As I see it ~ We don’t “go be with” anyone. We become that. It isn’t traveling as much as it is transforming.
For me, this represents an integration between the Divine Male and Divine Female *within* me. It’s a process that I am participating in if I choose. I’m not going anywhere, I am *becoming* something.
The grid, as I see it has been an implanted suggestion to make the opportunity of coming out of this situation possible by inserting the belief that we can. (We create what we believe and if we believe we can leave then we can, kind of thing…) That’s just my own thoughts on the matter. If you see a hole through which you think can get you out of this immediate vibrational reality, then it will. Your belief in it makes it possible. It was a simple and sophisticated solution to a particular problem of how to help humans even take a *first step* in realizing there is more to their existence, in my opinion. It worked to an extent, for some.
I see characters such as Enki/Marduk/Shiva, etc. as archetypes of specific types of energy. Individuals and collectives of beings can embody that energy and “call” themselves by these names, but so can we or other beings, for that matter. There can be *many* Marduks in the Universe! In my opinion, that is why there is so much confusion over one particular being who goes by many, many names. This explains that, for me, although I haven’t expanded on my interpretation of that here in this comment.
We should stop feeding them with the energy they represent. They basically amount to nothing more than thoughtforms that we keep alive by giving them these names and feeding them with the energy they embody. That’s how I see it.
It’s up to each individual to search for the conclusions that come from inside themselves. After reading and writing about the Gnostic texts, I continued to keep searching. After concluding that all of these stories are simply metaphorical (fairytales, basically), I wanted to understand what the story they were telling really was about. This is just my conclusion, at the moment. No one has to see things the way I see them. Nothing has to change in your own narrative of Truth. I just want to offer more to consider for those who might want to.
Thank you for this explanation, it did hep to see things a little more clearly 🙂
@KTB ~ You’re welcome. I’m glad it helped you to see things from my perspective a little more clearly.
I would like to thank Ariel for her response to question 4. See I believe we have to Seek Truth first and then Speak it. I’ve been doing this pretty much since I have Awakened. But my own elderly parents in their 80s will still not accept this and this is the point where I yell at times. After reading Ariel’s response I realize I am bringing them fear, depression etc without even knowing it, so that has all stopped. They know where they can find the information now as well as others. You can lead folks to Water, you can’t make them drink. Thanks Ariel!
@Anon ~ Thank you 🙂
Haha, NP, my mom thanks you as well for helping me to see the Light.
How accurate is this man in understanding this trap. See https://youtu.be/PqEZ-Ge6ABk
Thank you @Alex for sharing this link…he is giving a very valuable info….adding to Wes’s teaching, for me personally, expanded my point of you👍. Thank you.
I just listen his interview with Lorenzo Malowane ….pls listen.
https://ca.linkedin.com/posts/thenewnow_the-only-door-out-leaving-the-cave-with-activity-6974537882719973376-9H5N