The Orion Creation Story Part 4: Cosmogony from a New Point of View

By Wes Penre, September 2022

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“The first thing we need to understand is that the KHAA, or the Void, is Intelligent Energy — it is the essence of the Mother Goddess, and therefore feminine. Those who say they have experienced the KHAA and explain it as being a ‘nothingness’, but a ‘nothingness of bliss’, without thought, emotions, or any other of the senses we normally are used to, it is just because of that — we are not used to this kind of energy….”

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  1. “The Goddess is the ultimate Creator, at least as far as it is known by older, more evolved
    [star races] in the Multivers”

    They may not be aware that anything exists HIGHER than this all-feminine Universe. If they were created within this feminine-only womb then they would never know that anything else exists outside of their home.

    We do NOT come from this feminine-only universe. We were created outside of it – in the fullness of the Source Creator, who divided Itself according to masculine and feminine emanations meant to work in harmony and balance, in pairs, to further create. The Gnostics describe what happened when ONLY the feminine aspect “gave birth” to a creation without the balance of its counterpart (masculine). This is where we exist and those other star races exist – within this creation called the Demiurge or the “Void” (an empty womb or an unfertilized egg, metaphorically speaking). This difference is that THEY were created HERE. This is all they know and they can’t go anywhere “higher”. To them, THIS is all there is.

    We were NOT created in the Void. Our physical avatars were created with the “stuff” of this Universe but NOT our spiritual nature. We have our Origins within the Source Creator (which is NOT just feminine!!)

    To exist within an ONLY feminine expression of the Universe is to still be within the “Fall” of Her creation. Don’t listen to those who are telling you this is all there is or this is the HIGHEST Divine creation! For THEM – it IS. They can’t go any higher. This is all they know. Follow them, if you want, but to do so will keep you firmly within the boundaries of the “Matrix”, a.k.a. “Mother’s Womb”.

    You are being misled and misinformed, and are misleading and misinforming others as a result. People should know.

    1. You have misunderstood what I’m saying, though. This is what you said:

      “We were NOT created in the Void. Our physical avatars were created with the “stuff” of this Universe but NOT our spiritual nature. We have our Origins within the Source Creator (which is NOT just feminine!!)”

      The VOID is Spirit, and we are NOT our physical Avatars. We are created by Spirit and we have Spirit “within.”. It’s our creative force. And the creative force is feminine. Masculine, for example, can’t create from scratch without the feminine starting it all, which is scientifically proven, even. The fetus is always feminine in nature well into the pregnancy, after which it is decided whether it should develop into male or female. It’s also been scientifically proven that a woman can reproduce without a male and get a child, but a male can’t. The feminine, represented by the female in 3D is the Creative Force. Thus, we say that Spirit is feminine, not masculine or neuter.

      The physical Universe, which I call Orion or the Greater Universe, is made by Spirit, which I call the Mother Goddess in the WPP. I insist that the Universe is feminine in nature. The masculine came after if we speak in linear terms.

      We don’t exist in only a feminine universe–I never said that. I said the feminine came first–thus, it’s a feminine universe. In this universe, both the feminine and masculine exist.

      1. Yes, I admit that some of what you are saying I do not understand. Some of it, however, I disagree with on the surface unless there is more explanation I am missing…

        “The VOID is Spirit, and we are NOT our physical Avatars. We are created by Spirit and we have Spirit “within.”. It’s our creative force. And the creative force is feminine. Masculine, for example, can’t create from scratch without the feminine starting it all, which is scientifically proven, even. The fetus is always feminine in nature well into the pregnancy, after which it is decided whether it should develop into male or female. It’s also been scientifically proven that a woman can reproduce without a male and get a child, but a male can’t. The feminine, represented by the female in 3D is the Creative Force. Thus, we say that Spirit is feminine, not masculine or neuter.”

        I disagree with a few things here. First, my physical avatar is just as much a part of my influence and life experience as any non physical part of my being. I don’t consider myself separated into parts. Second, NEITHER masculine nor feminine can create from scratch. Both are required. Can you give me some kind of study or documentation that show a woman can reproduce without the contribution of a male? If it has been scientifically proven that no sperm is required, then I am in error, I admit. However, I can find no scientific proof of this anywhere, so I ask for your help in finding this scientific proof.

        Yes, I agree that the feminine principle is a creative force, but without the directive counterpart of the masculine to give that energy direction, it remains a chaotic force (Dragon of Chaos). Both are important and vital to creation.

        Also –

        “The fetus is always feminine in nature well into the pregnancy, after which it is decided whether it should develop into male or female.”

        The FETUS does not decide what it should become – male or female. It is the contribution of the male’s genes that determine whether or not that fetus gets an X chromosome (female) or Y chromosome (male). Again, a consummation between male and female are necessary and each have their own contributions to make. I’m not sure where the concept that the fetus decides what it’s going to be comes from. Can you expand a bit on that line of thinking and where it comes from?

        “Masculine, for example, can’t create from scratch without the feminine starting it all, which is scientifically proven, even.”

        What scientific proof? And what do you mean by this statement? Maybe if I could read the scientific data it would be more clear to me.

        And finally, this –

        “The feminine, represented by the female in 3D is the Creative Force. Thus, we say that Spirit is feminine, not masculine or neuter.”

        I don’t agree that Spirit is represented by a gender, either male or female. To divide God into dominant and submissive parts where one comes “first” or one is “over” another doesn’t align with my understanding of God. It seems like you are placing the feminine principle above the masculine, and that sounds like The Dragon saying, “I am the most important. I am God. God is female.” God of THIS Universe, maybe. Maybe that’s what you mean. The one who has placed themselves as God/ess of this Universe, however, is a deceiver and does not have our best interest at heart. Just my opinion.

        “The physical Universe, which I call Orion or the Greater Universe, is made by Spirit, which I call the Mother Goddess in the WPP. I insist that the Universe is feminine in nature. The masculine came after if we speak in linear terms.”

        Yes, I agree that this Universe was created by the feminine emanation of God without Its masculine counterpart. Yes, in this case, a distorted masculine force emanated at the time this creation happened, but from what I understand, it happened at the same time. The creation produced the consequence at the moment of its conception, so to speak.

        1. That’s fine, Anonymous. I appreciate that you think for yourself and come to your own conclusions–that’s a good thing, and unusual these days, when critical thinking to a large degree is thrown out the window. I respect your conclusions. My own view on this subject is in the WPP. Still, I notice that both our conclusions overlap at times, and we are talking about the same thing but from different perspectives, and we use the word Avatar differently. To me, the Avatar is not the physical body–it’s the avatar that holds the soul together–all the trillions of fires–and it’s with the Avatar we take shape and form in the upper dimensions, and with which we can shapeshift.

            1. That’s a misleading article. There is much more that this article left out. I did a little digging. Thank you for the link, by the way.

              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20452130/#:~:text=Self%2Dfertilization%20may%20also%20occur,and%20testis%20in%20her%20body.

              This apparently CAN happen and HAS happened, but the woman who gave birth had the necessary anomalous biology to impregnate herself. Weird, but I guess it does happen. The concept of parthenogenesis mainly happens in life forms that reproduce asexually. For a sexually reproductive life form (as humans are) to do this is extremely rare and has to have several mutation factors in its favor, as the paper states in the link I posted, such as the necessary male genetics present within the female – she is essentially a chimera, having the fused aspects of both a developing male and female zygote within her genetic make-up.

              Whether or not that proves that the feminine comes first is too much of a stretch for me. I appreciate the new information, though.

              1. To refer back to a previous comment regarding embryos and fetuses, it’s not the woman’s egg that fertilizes the sperm, it’s the sperm that fertilizes the egg, so the egg came first, so to speak. You can’t create an embryo from a sperm–only from an egg, which is feminine. And the embryo always starts out as feminine. The gender is “decided” later on in the process. As above so below…

                The article I was going to give you, which I believe was the one I had read, was from Daily Mail. It seems it’s not there anymore: “We Can Create Babies Without Men” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-79711/We-create-babies-men-claim-scientists.html . Some news media show articles for free for a while, then you need to pay. Maybe that’s the case here.

                1. Okay. So based on your conclusion of things, when the creation of this current species of Homo sapiens sapiens occurred they created the female first (egg) and the male (sperm) came later? Is this how you see it?

                2. Yes, I know science can do many things but I don’t always agree with technological intervention (if that is what the article was describing- I don’t know but am assuming). I’m only talking about the natural order. In my perspective, if it doesn’t happen without the manipulation of scientists then it’s not natural order and it doesn’t fit into the creation of the Universe paradox of which principle came first.

        2. I apologize. I DID read the above statement regarding the fetus wrong. I read IT decides and you wrote IT IS decided. My bad. Regardless, once conception takes place, the genetic make-up of that fetus is already determined – male or female. Gender selection for invitro fertilization is now available for those who want either a boy or girl and the fertilized eggs can be sorted into male or female embryos. So, this genetic make-up is already present at the moment that fertilization takes place. Just because the penis and testicles have not fully developed does not mean that fetus is a female and then “turns” male. It was always a male from the get-go.

    2. ‘You are being misled and misinformed, and are misleading and misinforming others as a result. People should know.’

      How sure are you that you are not being mislead as well as being misinformed; whilst misleading others also?

  2. Thank you for the comment above. This is exactly what I experienced during my ascension test run 3 years ago when I left this reality in a dream and I shot outside of this matrix. I went through all the layers, including the grid, which is very easy to pass, all the way to pleroma and above when I saw the 11 creator gods playing this game. My Higher Self later told me that this game is distorted (in fall). I was able to leave this reality because of my desire to return home and my spiritual origin, as I am also a creator god. Where I dwell in a higher state of existence as a creator god, there is no duality, everything is created in unity with Source.

  3. The distorted chaos energy of the shadow feminine archetype is known as The Dragon. Artificially created masculine energy was inserted through Sophia but because of her lack of genuine masculine contribution from the Pleroma, this distorted masculine was born as Yaldabaoth; the Father of the archons. It isn’t the true father, however, only a distorted manifestation of the feminine Dragon/chaos. It’s still Sophia. To attempt to correct this, the divine Pleroma “sent” Christ into this creation in an attempt to balance the distortion THROUGH US, when we take Christ into ourselves. We, having come from this divine Source (God) have the ability to merge (marry) this within us and correct the abomination, if we choose (free will). It’s all part of a divine plan and it doesn’t stop with Sophia.

    Christ came here to give us the knowledge of the True Father. At the time, most of humanity was deifying Sophia’s artificially created godhead (father) named Yaldabaoth, unknowingly or they were only worshipping the Divine Feminine principle, both of which only serve “Her”. Sophia is not the Prime Source of Creation, and neither is the one you have crowned “Queen of Orion”. Don’t stop at the Dragon. Keep going.

    When people give praise and love to the Father that Jesus spoke of, they are directing their energy to His Father (OUR Father, which art in Heaven) – NOT Yaldabaoth/Enki/Marduk, etc. Christ was sent here to tell us about HIM, the True Father and Heavenly Realm because Sophia was keeping us ignorant (due to her own ignorance and lack of divine masculine knowledge).

  4. Good stuff Wes, yes if you look at David Icke’s dot connector series a few weeks back he reports that some scientists are seeing very strange stuff from their technological scopes (I don’t understand the technology behind it) disputing The big bang theory which have them all scurrying and scratching their heads because if you had a big bang you would see collisions but they’re not seeing that they’re seeing certain star systems starting out in a spiral fashion, very orderly, as you report here. So keep up the good work brother.

  5. For those who are interested – A good discussion of Orion and Sophia happening on this forum with a member who goes by the name Ghaeleon.

    Ghaeleon has an identical perspective on Orion, the grid, En.ki/Yaldabaoth, etc. as Wes. Some alternate perspectives are given in this thread that might be interesting to consider. If you click on Ghaeleon’s user name, it will give you all of his/her threads, but the one I am linking here is not a thread created by Ghaeleon, rather it is a thread that Ghaeleon is simply posting and contributing to.

    In order to see all of Ghaeleon’s posts, you would need to use the advanced search feature at the top of the forum page and search threads and replies made by the “member” id number. Ghaeleon is very active on this forum and has been since early this year. He/she is possibly a member of this community since the words they use are identical to Wes’ words, even using his term “patrix” and his perspective on the feminine principle. Ghaeleon has a lot to say.

    https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5182454/pg32?regp=bm9fMTY2MzUzODY5NQ==

  6. Wow, this is so interesting. I have only heard of one other person speak of this. As a child I would visit this place often. It was dark, empty (well, I couldn’t see anyone) and immensely vast. I would experience being very small, maybe like a pebble of sand or an ant. I felt a greatness, peace and indescribable love. I guess the only way I could explain it is maybe like being in a vast womb. As I was growing up I was always surprised when people would equate God or the Creator with Light. That has not been my experience.

    1. Amazing experience. Congratulations. I know a person, firsthand, that has had a very similar experience, which completely changed that person’s life and view on eternity. Thanks for sharing.

  7. This was really refreshing to read, thanks Wes. I have read your papers, it’s been awhile though. I like any new updates.

    I was told by a man (that I think I can trust) that the Aryans originated from Lyra, this is what he says. He says I’m a Lyran starseed. I guess at this point Orion is spread everywhere anyway, however he insisted things began for the human race on Lyra. I did mention to him about Orion and he said to me, “no, you’re from Lyra, you have green eyes, that’s the indicator”.

    And Lyra is no more now. I even talked to a random man about it, he knows who he is and where he’s from, he said his home planet is gone now. That’s a question I have for you, how could a realm, not a completely physical place or planet be no more? How could it even be blown up? Does that make sense?

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