By Wes Penre, November 9, 2023
Here is a new Q&A. There haven’t been any in a couple of weeks. I have been busy from morning to evening writing the new book, The Story of Isis and the War on Bloodlines. It will be the absolute best I’ve ever written, and it truly puts the pieces together, so we can understand the Matrix and the Overlords’ Agenda much better. So, the Q&A’s may continue being far between for a while.
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Now to the questions:
Question #1: In “The Orion Book: Volume 2” you have a lot to say about Enki and the religion most people follow in the Judeo-Christian faiths. One tenet many followers partake in is that of tithing 10% of one’s income. Isn’t that essentially giving money to Enki and his minions? What is your take on tithing?
Comment: Yes, it’s basically a way of collecting money that goes to the Overlords’ agenda, and perhaps more importantly, you give money (which is energy) to them, creating loosh for them to digest.
Question #2: I have been reading your material on and off since 2021 starting with the Hidden Hand and more slowly opening my mind to other possibilities.
Recently I read the Orion Book 1 and am finishing right now the Orion Book 2.
In the Orion book in chapter 23 (The Gnostics and The Jesus story) you say that “I don’t believe there was a Jesus walking on Earth 2,000 years ago – its most likely a myth created by a plotting trickster god.”
My questions are the following:
1) Who is the “Jesus” that is talked about in the following sources?
– Thallus 52 AD
– Annals of 116 AD
– Antiquities of the Jews
2) Who are the “demons” in the catholic church? And why can they be cast out in Jesus Christ name?
Comment: 1) Since I started digging deep into the research for the new Isis book, I realized I was wrong regarding the Jesus. Many think Jesus did not exist because it’s a recap of earlier pagan stories, such as Osiris, Isis, and Horus, but that’s how they do it. They repeat the same, or very similar stories, but that doesn’t mean there wasn’t someone here 2,000 years ago, portraying the Jesus figure. There was! I am certain about that now—not because I think that’s the case, it’s because without Jesus walking here on Earth, the Overlords’ major agenda could never be played out. Jesus as a man, with Marduk’s soul inside, was essential to the Overlords. Any reader of the new Isis book will understand why that is when they read it. There is no doubt anymore that a real person was here.
I haven’t had the chance to research any of the names you mentioned, unfortunately.
2) Demons can be many things. Some of them are thought forms in the astral, who have gotten their own consciousness because they are fed and created with our energies. Some demons are also Overlords, e.g., Sirians who possess certain people of certain bloodlines. Why they sometimes leave when the name of Jesus Christ (Marduk) is repeated, I can only hypothesize. One explanation is that the exorcist (often a Catholic), has such a strong faith that he or she is basically mentally stronger than the demon. I think this is the reason. Exorcism doesn’t always work, it depends on the power of the exorcist, regardless of whether he or she is a Catholic or a pagan. Faith can be a strong motivator, however, and we humans should never underestimate our own spiritual power in general—not even here in the Matrix.
Question #3: I have read all your work, and I really like how you handle things. I have a question: We were born into the spiritual realm as 3-UC, which means that our spirit-souls are attached to the spiritual body, which is one. The soul comes from the material kingdom but if it is incorporated into the spiritual body and therefore indivisible, does that make it immortal at all? Sophia, who is an Aeon, she is made in the same way as us ? Thank you for your answer.
Comment: At one point in time, I would say in the beginning of the Second Construct (Atlantis), En.ki created the artificial soul (mentioned in the Gnostic texts), also called the astral body—the blueprint for our physical body. In there, he trapped the true Namlú’u soul-spirit-mind (3-UC). Through the astral body, he and the other Overlords can manipulate us humans and control us through complete amnesia, etc. The astral body is of the material universe—the Matrix—and when we exit, we won’t bring with us our astral body, our false avatar. Once out of here, we will operate from the true 3-UC, and not the false artificial soul-mind-Spirit body, which are the astral body, lower mind (including the subconscious mind), and physical body, respectively. Remember, En.ki copies everything—he’s a copycat. Outside the Matrix, we shed all the false parts of ourselves, and left are the true soul and mind, and the spirit body, respectively, making up our Avatar. Soul and mind (within the boundary of the Orion Universe) are not immortal. If the Universe ceases to exist, only our spirit body will survive.
Yes, The Orion Queen, i.e., the Aeon Sophia, manifested in the Orion Universe, comprising soul-mind-spirit body, just like we do. We are “mini-copies” of the Queen, one could say.
Question #4: Will we hear more (all there is to know) of Isis’ father and grandfather in the Isis book?
Comment: Prince Ninurta will be very important in the Isis book, and he is mentioned a lot across all the chapters—Khan En.lil not so much. He’s not part of this particular story to any significant degree.
Question #5: The Wes Penre Papers has a lot of material to be read, the average person is not evolved enough to assimilate so much information, it is difficult almost impossible to find someone who is interested in researching to find the truth, so I would like to know if it is absolutely necessary to read the Wes Penre Papers to get out through a hole in the grid, or is just reading the Book of Orion enough to enable someone to get out of the matrix?
Comment: I think that’s individual, but if I would have to suggest, I’d say, read the Orion books first, and then go to the Wes Penre Papers. The books fill two purposes: 1) They simplify the essential parts of the papers, without altering them, and 2) they expand on them. They are more condensed than the WPP, but for those who want an expanded picture, more nitty-gritty details, the WPP are definitely a great source of information.
Question #6: Is Homo sapiens a mixture of the apes existing at the time of Atlantis and the human race called Namlú’u, as described in level 3 of the Wes Penre Papers?
Comment: En.ki experimented a lot with different races, even Reptoid races, before he created homo sapiens. Yes, he tinkered with the prehistoric apes, changed their DNA, and eventually came up with a homo sapiens that would work to host our 3-UCs. I will explain much more about how that worked in the beginning part of the Isis book.
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