By Wes Penre, December 4, 2023
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Hello and welcome to a December Q&A. Hope you’re all doing well. My new book, “The History of Isis—the War on Bloodlines” is finished, and I am now editing it. I expect to publish it on Amazon.com by the 2nd of January 2024, but I will keep you updated. Eventually, we will have Q&As on that book as well, just like we did on the Orion Books.
Please send more questions at wespenre2@gmail.com and put Q&A in the subject line, so I won’t miss your questions. Here are today’s inquiries:
Question 1: Why do you regard Orion to be Heaven, and not ? I ask from both personal experience and that which I’ve been able to uncover online, and although the latter is up for interpretation. What I and my GF have experienced points more towards Ophiuchus. There is a possibility that the intention of something otherworldly is distracting us from truth, but then again, the topic I bring up is what brought her and I together, since her description of a marble man with a golden head, arms, and legs ended up matching my syncretic gatherings of information in regard to the matter. Hope to hear from you soon, thanks for everything!
Comment: I just think it’s a misunderstanding on Orion, which is common. Orion is a star constellation we can see from Earth, but it’s also the name of the Greater Universe outside the Matrix. It’s in the latter context I’m using it in my material. So, Orion is the entire Universe, as we know it, not just the star constellation. This is why I call it Heaven. Not because it’s like the biblical heaven, but because this is how the ancient cultures looked upon Orion. It was their home, their “Heaven” to which they wanted to return. Ophiuchus is a star constellation, however, and that’s how I look upon it. I’m unable to speak about your girlfriend’s and your experiences, I’m afraid, because they are your personal experiences on which I can’t comment.
Question 2: How can it be that Enlil is a Sirian and still the son of the Orion Queen, or is he? In the first papers Enlil was a very destructive being. Then he repented and became a social personality.
How can an antisocial personality, which is to say a psychotic, become social (a rational being)? Are we talking about the same person here?
Comment: Prince En.lil (Ninurta) is not from Sirius, he’s from Orion. However, he has a Sirian consort (Gula or Ba), with whom he has a daughter, Isis, who is half Sirian and half Orion.
In the first few papers in the Wes Penre Papers (WPP), the Second Level of Learning, I did write that En.lil was the “bad guy.” At that time, I was still blindly following the common narrative that En.ki is “good” and En.lil is “bad.” Not until later, and after those papers were already published, did I realized my mistake. Like so many things in the Matrix, even that was inverted. En.ki was actually En.lil and En.lil was En.ki in many aspects. You may have noticed that although I didn’t really support any of the two at the time, I leaned more toward En.ki as the good guy rather than En.lil. That changed dramatically with more research and conversations with a source I had at the time. I still hold this later viewpoint because, for one, it’s the only perspective that really makes sense if we continue researching. The En.lil I described in the beginning of that level of learning fits better with Marduk’s than with En.lil’s personality, for sure.
The true dynamic between En.ki and En.lil does not get exposed until in the Second Level of Learning, Paper 12. I could have taken down the earlier erroneous papers, but that’s usually not how I work. I want the readers to see my linear research. The WPP is a testament to how my research progressed.
Question 3: I have come across this text, and I’d really appreciate to hear your thoughts on this:
“Guilt is a feeling that comes from the ego. Thus, it’s not real, besides being impregnated by feeling of control and possession.
When we feel guilty, it’s because we’ve lost control, and we assume we’ve made a mistake. But everything is correct in the cosmic order.
Nobody makes mistakes nor gets anything right. We only accumulate experiences, and, this way, we expand our consciousness and evolve.
The ones who keep their guilt and feel remorse will get stuck to the past, and feel anguished by the future, and will not live the present moment which is the Divine Offer.
Then, we shall live the present moment with no guilt and no remorse for we had better learn the lesson and keep going! “
Comment: The only thing I can say about this quote is that it’s excellent. I have no comments. I fully agree.
Question 4: You were mentioning the upcoming Metaverse in your books – and that Enki and Marduk want humanity there; tmo (not sure what tmo means) up until now people don’t seem to invest so much passion, for instance, into Mark Zuckerberg’s meta (horizon worlds) yet. Not fit for the market? Virtual parallel world imposed over the “real world”, monetized, are there more optimistic dystopias…? Not even the creators of the metaverse seem to use it; [once] ranked 6th among the most valuable companies, and now down to 32.
Is there a “change” in people’s consciousness/attitude about this? What’s your thought about the development?
Comment: Metaverse is a term I often use to describe the future virtual reality the Khan Kings (the Overlords) are preparing. They want to merge us into a digital world and trap our consciousness in a Cloud, where we are telepathically connected. This is important for the Khan Kings because that’s how they can control us all at once—they no longer need to manipulate us a few at the time. It makes it easier for them, so they can build the Singularity and take over our spirit bodies. Then they can invade Orion, riding our Avatars, who by then will be completely mind-controlled and possessed by them.
Zuckerberg’s Metaverse is just a very early prototype of something much grander that will come later. The Elite are just testing the waters.
Question 5: Hey Wes, I stumbled across a woman called Peggy Kane on Bitchute, she does a technique called reversed speech, which is when she records a voice of say “Noe,” a politician. Then she reverses it on a recorder and sometimes their true intentions come out like their subconscious is speaking the truth behind what they are saying but in reverse. She was also an extremely new-age kind of person, but her world was flipped upside down when figuring all these reverse speech things out, like the idea of karma and enlightenment etc. What do you think about this reverse speech? If you don’t know of her, I highly recommend this video for a starter.
Comment: I’m aware of Penny, although I have not looked at her stuff for years. We can obviously hear reversed speech in some of the rock albums, particularly those from the 60s and 70s, although the artists deny it. Is it the artists’ subconscious, or does someone add it to the background so it goes into OUR subconscious? I don’t know because this is not something I’ve been researching a lot, but if I would guess, I would say it’s planted there to affect us. It’s another form of mind-control, I would suggest.
Question 6: What does one do when you co-regulate or open up to someone you trust? You mention this in “The Ultimate Guide to Exit the Grid” blog/article as follows: “It also helps if you have a trustworthy person in your life whom you can open up to, and [who] can perhaps open up to you. There is no faster healing than that–better even than the best therapy with the best therapist. How do you go about asking the right questions and dealing with their responses (and vice versa)?
Comment: What I meant by that article is that if you find someone you feel you can be completely yourself with, and an absolute trust has built up between you, you will probably be more prone to talk with that person about deeper things. Most trauma comes from narcissistic or psychopathic abuse, so what I would suggest is to just talk about it with each other and be open about how you feel and all you can remember happened in a bad relationship. You will notice you have forgotten a lot and unwittingly hidden it in your subconscious. By talking about it and letting your emotions out regarding it, new layers will open, and then you discuss those until you feel better. After a lot of work, you might notice you start feeling much better, and the real you comes out more and more. The uncertainty and the insecurity people feel after such relationships start to fade, and a more secure self will come out. We can’t heal all trauma we’ve been through, but we can get to a breaking point, where we can override the voices and the subconscious reactions we may have had earlier. We can take control over our lives again.
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