By Wes Penre, September 27, 2024
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Question #1: Hi Wes. Reflection into our upper atmosphere of the Moon bodes well to the theories that man has never actually gone to the Moon, and all those missions were actually staged. But the theory that things were actually shot at the Moon, and it was told that the moon rang like a bell, which proves well because the Moon is hollow, how could they do that?
So has man actually been to the Moon physically? Or was that theory just spread from those who “know,” because I also understand that we cannot travel in the cosmic waters in our Homo sapiens garment. So, I’m still trying to resolve that one.
Oh, and this also bodes well for reflection of the sun into our atmosphere by a mirror or whatever technology, with those people who have witnessed workers working on the Sun, work on the actual physical sun or working on the reflective surface in our atmosphere. Just a comment about Plato’s cave we all live in. Thanks.
Comment: You have the right idea about the moon, in my opinion. Astronauts have been to the moon, from what I have understood, but not in the way we’re told. We have a reflection of the moon projected into our atmosphere, but the true moon is outside in the solar system and is a hollowed out Sirian/Khan King/archontic “spaceship,” put in orbit to stabilize life in the Matrix. The way I see it is that astronauts like Armstrong, Collins, and Aldrin were at the true moon, but not in the physical. Today we know about OBEs and Remote Viewing. Within those capabilities, the answer lies. All astronauts were upper grade Freemasons, educated in esoteric knowledge.
Regarding workers on the sun, I’ve never heard of it, so I can’t comment, I’m afraid.
Question #2: I am currently reading The Orion Book (well, technically I’m listening to it on Audible). A section regarding the invasion of En.ki’s forces piqued my interest – you say actual Vulcans were captured and to this day are held deep within Earth’s volcanoes? I’m assuming they aren’t made of physical matter like our 3D bodies but dark matter instead – so hypothetically, if I, as a human, bored into the right volcano where a Vulcan is held, would I even be able to see or perceive them? And also, what is being done to them – why hold them as prisoners for so long?
Comment: Yes, both in the WPP (the Wes Penre Papers at wespenre.com) and in the Orion books, I mention the Vulcans who were trapped here in volcanoes. To be honest, that’s basically all I know about it. I discussed it briefly with my Contact during the WPP years, but we never got the chance to discuss it at length. I understand this does not make you wiser, nor does it me. I simply don’t have an answer to what became of them and why they have been trapped for so long.
Question #3: I don’t trust the Orion group or empire; I still don’t understand if they are able to create powerful humans. why they didn’t save the humans when they got attacked and enslaved.
I just don’t think they did not have enough power to bring us back from hostile beings and if a creator being can’t protect their creation, then why create to begin with?
If creator beings lack such forethought and consequences of their action or lack thereof, are they qualified to become creators of self-aware beings that will bring change in the universe. Who will judge them as it seems they are pretty judgmental regarding human actions.
I didn’t ask to be made and turned into a criminal or hostile being. My childhood is ruined, and my entire life landscape is ruined.
Where should I go if I don’t want to go to Orion, besides I am not sure if I am spirited most probably not, so how a 2uc will navigate the cruel universe, because I don’t want to run in with hostile beings, be trapped again. I prayed a few times, and my prayers never got answered so I know now the nature of reality .
And why are these outside beings so adamant to keep us trapped here? It is not like I am going to wage omniversal war the moment I get released; nor do I think I have that kind of fire power. Maybe they are projecting their own violent past onto us?
I don’t think you will answer this question, I am in pain, and I wanted to find answer so I stumbled upon the WPP, but I don’t have spirit and I can’t have gnosis or so called intuition, but this is what I choose to believe in this cruel world to find solace that there is a way I can find peace and finally destroy this instrument of torture known as soul mind.
I always will hate heavens—this hatred I can’t let it go .
I know it will probably not resonate with you. I wish they answered but they never did.
I hope you will respond but hope always disappoints but I think I am not aware what hope is either. Maybe it is expectation or something else. Well, it sucks to be a 2-UC or NPC, you know, but I will have my peace regardless of my status .
Comment: First, I would greatly suggest you read my new book, “Battles Between Shadows and Light” because that book will answer 99% of your questions in a logical way. The rest, I’ll try to address here.
By the way, I want to ensure you that even though I don’t know you personally, I can tell from your post that you are definitely spiritual, a 3-UC. I say this with confidence. You are NOT a 2-UC or an NPC. You’re just like me and most other people—you’re human. I don’t “care” if you’re angry, disappointed, or discouraged—all of those are human emotions and reactions. You’ve just had a tough life, that’s all.
Now, let’s comment in the order you wrote me. Although it sounds strange, we all volunteered to do this, but no one, including Orion, thought it would be this hard. The reason they did not understand this is because they did not understand the Khan Kings/Archon fully. They had to learn about them through us. But make no mistake, you are Divine, and to divinity you will eventually return, regardless of how you feel right now. That’s the TRUE you. Here on Earth, we operate within our conscious, subconscious, and unconscious minds that basically has nothing to do with our true nature. It’s En.ki’s false selves we are operating on.
Question #4: It looks like Barbelo was the first emanated, so maybe She wasn’t the first Aeon. I’m actually trying to draw charts, so the Spiritual realm has really shifted around for me now.
Comment: Barbelo is not an Aeon. She emanated before the Aeons. See the chart I attached here above. I think that quite well gives us the picture.
Question #5: In your new book, “Battles Between Shadow and Light,” on page 111, you state… “This is when the entire Kenoma will implode, and with that Orion as well, and everything will be integrated with the Pleroma. The physical universes of matter will be as if they never existed.”
Does that mean we will no longer exist? Will we be individuals? Will we be conscious? Will we be self-aware? And if we are alive still, you are saying we will have no memory of any physical life ever? Makes things seem pointless if we will not ever remember anything ever existing.
Comment: We will still be individuals, even after Orion has imploded. We will return to the Pleroma (the Spirit Realm), and even though we’ll merge with our essence, Geradamas, we will keep our individuality. I know many people in the “spiritual community” promotes going back to Source and become One, but from all I’ve gathered, that does not seem plausible. Moreover, we can’t be perfect creator gods until we go back to the Pleroma. That’s were we were born, and that’s where we operate at our best.
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