By Wes Penre, October 7, 2024
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Question #1: We’ve heard about the bloodlines. Especially Isis and Marduk, but what about En.lil, Ninurta? What is the history of his incarnation. The earth and Namlu’u are his responsibilities. Has he been incarnating on earth since En.ki was cast into the Abzu? Are there any historical connections you’ve been able to make? If so, what has he been up to in order to counter Marduk? It’s difficult to believe he would stand by doing nothing without being here throughout history. Certainly, he has been active somehow? Have you been able to determine if he incarcerated as any historical figures?
Comment: Prince Ninurta has not interacted with humans in the past, since before the Flood. Even when he castrated En.ki and threw him down, he was not on Earth. This happened in Orion, in the Rigel system. So, Ninurta was not actually in the Matrix. He has not been in the Matrix throughout Matrix history because En.ki put up the Grid that was not penetrable until not so many decades ago. As mentioned in my books, especially the latest book, “Battles Between Shadow and Light,” this Matrix was allowed to be set up and played out. This is thoroughly detailed in my latest book, and I advise those interested in reading the entire story there.
Question #2: When Tiamat was destroyed, most likely by nuclear weapons, isn’t it true that the Spirit gets completely wiped out from one’s body after a nuclear attack? How then did we the Namlu’u remain in a coma for thousands of years? I thought we would have perished?
Comment: Not all Namlú’u escaped the Tiamat disaster. When Marduk and his DAKH warriors won the battle, Ninurta and as many Namlú’u as possible escaped through the Saturn stargate, which was then closed. Many of us were captured here with no way to return. According to the RA Material, we were in such shock that we lost our consciousness, and we decreased in density, only to be awakened long afterward, when Orion decided to start the Earth (Second Atlantis) project and thus continue the Human Experiment.
Question #3: Regarding your new book: It is said that those who don’t repent will be thrown back with the wolves again. Does repentance means accepting what things I have done I have done things I regret maybe more in my past incarnations? But after exiting I don’t want to go to Orion, I want to explore the universe. Does it mean if I explore and don’t return to Orion, I will be thrown back to the wolves again. It is a tragedy being born, not knowing what to do and even questioning is this really what I want.
Comment: You are who you are right now. Past incarnations are irrelevant. Having gone through all previous incarnations, the person you are today is whom you have become—that’s your current personality, which you will keep as your primary persona when you leave the Matrix.
The Universe you say you want to explore is Orion—that is the Universe. The Matrix in its entirety is our solar system, and that’s it. “Outside” that is Orion. So, all the stars, galaxies, and the rest of it are all in Orion. If you don’t go to Orion, you have little choice but to stay in the solar system, which is controlled by the Khan Kings. You have all possible chances to explore the Universe once you get to Orion. You can read about the exit plans here: https://wespenrevideos.com/category/exiting-the-grid/.
Regarding repentance: We repent our connection and cut off our trauma bond with the Sirian Khan Kings and the Matrix. Over time, humans have taken on the Khan Kings’ personae more and more, and we have become like them. We need to be willing to get rid of all attachments to the Matrix and our oppressors. Those who will be left behind are those who refuse to do so and want to go with the Khan Kings or have so many hideous crimes in their closet that they could not possibly be allowed into Orion and destroy for everybody else there. Some may see this as unjust, but would we really want a serial killer living in our house, for example?
Question #4: In the Orion book, you mention the astral and how it’s actually a projection of our collective mind, and within it lies levels, so to speak – like the floors of an apartment complex.
In this case, how does this concept change the idea of there being holes in the Grid? When a person dies and ends up on a random “floor/level” of the astral, do they need to ascend to the higher levels before they see the exit points? Simply put; can a person see the holes while they’re still in floor 1, and can they actually reach them?
Lastly, you mentioned a fascinating story of this man named Monroe, who travelled the astral for decades; I’m confused as to how and why he never once saw any exit points or holes in the astral plains, he even reached the higher heavenly plains as you put it, but never once saw something akin to a way out. Why is that?
Comment: The astral is many things (but essentially an intermediary between the Matrix and Orion). We are creator gods, and what we put our passionate creation into will manifest in the astral. Sometimes, it’s just a vague thought form, but other times, it can be complex realms. Religion is a perfect example. The Khan Kings lure us into believing in a certain God and the religion they make up around it all, and because so many people believe in it, such a realm, manifests as a realistic thought form in the astral, and the God, who is always whom the Gnostics called Yaldabaoth, regardless of religion, gets all the loosh (Fire) we feed him with.
Most people are recycled after death and go into the tunnel of light, but some end up in one of these planes that Robert Monroe mentioned having visited. But even he said that the “Heaven” he’d visited was just an endless loop—it wasn’t real, although at first, it appeared to be. Astral travelers sometimes see the Grid, but they do not know what they’re looking at, and they can’t leave anyway because they are not dead. Also, “you see what you’re prepared to see.”
All you need to do after you depart from your body is what I’ve described in my writings (see link in my comment to the previous question).
Question #5: Hi Wes! So, after this whole cosmic situation has played out and justice has been served, we, as the remaining human soul group are gathered in our androgynous forms in the Pleroma. And say I saved my personality and Being from this lifetime by Getting Out is from chapter 23 (by the way chapter 23 and one reason I believe why we see the number 23 so often, a sacred number by the way— getting Out of the Head Cage, of Aleister Crowley’s Book of Law. Of course, Crowley always wrote in code, so it had to be deciphered, which Mark Passio did very nicely, not to say others haven’t done it. But say we run into a relative that did not Get Out. Will we still be able to tell that they were them, say like a past mother? Because as you have stated, and the texts have stated, that this will be resolved one day, and we will be back to where we once belonged.
Comment: Our next station after we exit will be Orion rather than the Pleroma (the Spirit Realm in which we were born as spiritual beings), but we will eventually return to the Pleroma. The Gnostic texts tell us that in the end, everything will be revealed (since Light will illuminate the entire existence), which means everything. If this is true, you would be able to get the answers you want. And ultimately, everything will go back to its/their origin.
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