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Gnostic Musings #4: Spirit vs. Soul–Which Goes Where?

By Wes Penre, July 28, 2020

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Many people have asked us how we can be Spirit and soul at the same time—the two being separate from each other, and whether both soul and Spirit will survive the End Times (the Consummation of the Age). If so, do Spirit and soul go to different places, and if they do, are they then split into two personalities? This article will be an attempt to answer these questions from our perspective.

What is the Soul?

To begin with, let us distinguish between soul and Spirit, starting with soul. The soul is our ego—our personality. If your name is Bob, and your memories and experiences in this world are that of Bob, your personality is that of Bob, and that’s how you know who you are in 3-D. The name Bob is given to you so you can be recognized and identified in the 3-D world, but your soul experiences are also those of Bob. When you die, and if you get reincarnated, you will most likely be incarnated into the same lifetime again, and you will remain being Bob. One could say that Bob is you. The soul is also a tool used to search for the Spirit inside. The soul, when making some good choices, will put herself on a spiritual path by asking herself, “Who am I?” “Why am I here?” “Where am I going? “What is my purposed in life?”

In the Wes Penre Papers (WPP), I wrote that the soul is made up of trillions of small fires that combined create the soul, and each fire is a small piece of the whole. This means that each little fire contains the memories and experiences of the entire soul.

These soul fires are also called star-fire, and we are star beings—a star race. What does this mean, and how was the soul once created?

As mentioned in the Gnostic texts, the soul was created within the Kenoma, i.e. the material universe—it’s made of bioelectricity, and it was created by Yaldabaoth/En.ki.

In the WPP and in our videos, we mentioned that souls draw their energy from the Central Sun, which is located in the middle of the Universe. That was all we knew at that time, but we didn’t know where the middle of the Universe is. However, thanks to the Gnostic texts, we now have a big clue. If we look at the Seven Heavens of the Kenoma, the Central Sun is located in the 4th Heaven. We would argue that this is the Central Sun, from which the souls were created.

Thoth says in “The Emerald Tablets of Thoth,” “as above so below.” This is absolutely correct, and it applies to virtually everything. We could say that the Spiritual Universe, i.e. the Pleroma, is the Ultimate Sun, where there is only Light and no darkness/ignorance. Then, we would suggest there is probably some kind of Central Sun in Orion, too (the 8th and 9th Heavens), although we haven’t seen any reference to this. Then, we have the Central Sun in the 4th Heaven, from which our souls were most likely made. Even farther down the dimensions, we have our own Sun within the atmosphere, which almost certainly works as a portal and a hub and connects to the Central Sun in the 4th Heaven. Finally, our bodies have a Central Sun, as well, which is our heart area.

What is Spirit?

Now, let’s move to Spirit. If our soul is our identity, what about Spirit? Here is where most people get lost. As we’ve discussed earlier, the Spirit inside us, which in most people is almost completely disconnected from soul and body because of amnesia, distractions, and manipulation, etc., is that of Sophia. An easy way to picture it is to use the metaphor we’ve employed in earlier writings, i.e. we pretend that Sophia is a sun, and her Spirit that is attached to us humans is her sunbeams—they belong to her but are attached to us. In other words, the Spirit we have inside us is not us, as we know ourselves—it’s Sophia, the Spiritual Aeon. In addition, for those who have received Gnosis (spiritual Knowledge) through the Message of Christ, are from thereon connected to Sophia/Christ, which is the complete Sophia in her androgynous form (feminine and masculine in one).

Thus, the “beam” of Spirit we have inside us is not us if we look at it from a human perspective. When we connect with Spirit, we connect with the Aeon Sophia/Christ, who in their turn are of the Pleroma—the soul is not.

Spirit is not a personality the way we look at personalities—an Aeon is different—it’s pure Spirit and belongs to a completely different realm. We, after receiving Gnosis, can let this Spirit flow through us and guide us on our journey through this 3-D reality, and it will help us to make better choices and to light up this realm with Knowledge, which will inspire and spark more Spirit to wake up. Spirit is a state of being—it’s not a part of us that is thinking and calculating—the soul is doing that part.

Thus, at the Consummation of the Age, Sophia will withdraw all her “sunbeams” (Spirit) from us and let them return to her, from whence they originate—it has nothing to do with Bob in the above example. The soul (Bob), on the other hand, goes to Orion, which is the Holy Souls Realm. Here we need to stop for a while and explain what the Holy Souls Realm is, and why Sophia is so eager to save as many souls as possible from this Experiment.

The Holy Souls Realm

The Aeons of the Pleroma are creating their own universes. In the WPP, The Second Level of Learning, I wrote that there are many different universes, and they come in clusters of twelve. Remember, there are twelve Aeons in the Pleroma, all of them androgynous. Each androgynous Aeon is creating their own universes. If each Aeons would create only one universe, we would have twelve universes, but they create much more than that. From what I learned when writing the WPP, universes come in clusters of twelve, which seems to indicate that Aeons create twelve universes in a group, and then another twelve, etc. Our universe (the Kenoma) is only one of myriads of universes. Because each Aeon has their own attributes, a human soul can not travel from one universe to another. To be able to do that, we would need to first enter the Pleroma and jump to another Aeon’s universe, which is not possible because souls can’t exist in the Pleroma, due to that souls are made of energy. In the Pleroma, there is only Spirit.

As we know, Sophia created a “deficient” universe because she didn’t consult her androgynous partner—it was incomplete. It became a universe of ignorance, where knowledge was missing—it became a dark universe.

When Sophia noticed what she had done, she created a veil between the Pleroma and the 9th Heaven, in order to safeguard the Pleroma. She also created a veil between the 8th and the 7th Heaven. The 8th and 9th Heaven thus became what we call Orion—the Holy Souls Realm.

When Sophia got help from the Pleroma, and Christ, her consort, descended to where Sophia resided in Orion, Knowledge was added to these two Heavens, and that part of Sophia’s Creation became complete. It was now a Realm of Light, while the lower Heavens were still under Yaldabaoth’s reign and influence and was in darkness/ignorance.

The first version of humans was created between the 7th and 8th Heaven by Christ, and these humans were spirited in ethereal bodies—the First Atlantis. As mentioned in the Gnostic texts and in our Gnosis Series, Sabaoth/Prince Ninurta told the first humans that they needed to descend down the Heavens, where Yaldabaoth and his archons dwell, in order to help spreading light in these realms. Knowing that Yaldabaoth is always copying and mimicking what is Above, they anticipated that he would create his own humans, which he did in one of his own Heavens. This is when the souls were first created from the Central Sun. That was the beginning of the Human Soul Group.

At this point in time, Ignorance/darkness only exists in the Kenoma—not in Orion, which is now a perfect creation of Sophia. Therefore, when we—the souls—return to Orion, we will return to a realm that is completely lit up by Spirit. It’s a realm without darkness. Sophia/Christ will then return to the Pleroma, and we, the souls, will stay in Orion, having obtained Gnosis, surrounded by the Spirit that Sophia has invested in her own Creation/Universe, which is Orion. The Kenoma will be consumed.

Since we humans started our mission by descending into the Kenoma, we have gradually descended deeper and deeper into darkness, until we at this point have reached the bottom—the Underworld. We needed to descend all the way down because if we didn’t, and the Experiment would have ended before we reached the bottom, only the parts of the Kenoma through which we had descended could be consumed, and the lower parts would still be intact. Therefore, the Consummation of the Age that is ahead of us will be the last one. This is when the entire Kenoma will be consumed and Spirit and soul will be retrieved. The soul, whom I earlier called Bob, will now become a Creator God in Orion. We will be the inhabitants in Sophia’s perfected universe, which is now in balance.

This entire process, from beginning to end, was, according to the gospels, planned by the Monad and the Aeons already from the beginning. As soon as the thought was created and the intention was set, it was done in the Spiritual Universe. However, because our universe is still deficient, steps needed to be taken for the mission to be completed. This is a material universe, where time is of consequence, and therefore, it had to be done in steps. But it will be completed because the intention is already set. What is imperfect will be destroyed, and what has been perfected will remain, which is the Holy Souls Realm.

Why Saving Souls?

If souls are of the Kenoma, why is Sophia so eager to save them? Aren’t we made by Yaldabaoth? Yes and no. Even the deficient universe is Sophia’s to begin with, and though Yaldabaoth created the souls, he created it out of Sophia’s original creation. Sophia then used Yaldabaoth’s soul creations to have us search for Spirit. Then, Christ gave us Gnosis, and from that, the soul becomes a full creation—it becomes androgynous, having both its masculine and feminine parts developed. Then, we are ready to become the inhabitants of Sophia’s universe, i.e. Orion.

We hope this will give some food for thoughts…


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