By Wes Penre, February 23, 2023
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Once again, thank you for submitting your questions! This time, I got quite a few, but I don’t want to make this Q&A too long, so I will post more of what I got next time. But please submit more questions at wespenre2@gmail.com, and put “Q&A” in the subject line, so I don’t miss it.
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Question 1: Considering the new information regarding narcissism in The Orion Book, is the information you published earlier still valid? I think you wrote that narcissists were composite souls sent here to traumatize humanity.
Comment: Yes, it’s still valid. To me, it makes sense that it’s a mix of three categories:
1. Traumatized children, who never got to separate from their mothers and were severely abused. They create a false self (as discussed in The Orion Book).
2. Some are possessed by demons or malevolent entities from the astral. This might overlap with #1 above in some cases, I think. Particularly psychopathic narcissists might fall into this #2 category, and some serial killers, perhaps.
3. I would suggest some narcissists are not even human but NPCs (Non-Player Characters), sent here to traumatize us and delay our awakening process. Abusive people also collect loosh (stolen soul energy) from their targets, which the Overlords can feed from.
Narcissists diagnosed with NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) are like machines, which is quite odd but still true. This is also verified by Sam Vaknin, PhD., who himself is a narcissist. Once we know how narcissism works, they become extremely predictable—even if they come from different parts of the world and are grown up in distinct cultures. We know narcissists program themselves to develop a “false self,” but the strange thing is that they all create the same program. If you know one narcissist and figure him/her out, the next narcissist has pretty much the same coping mechanisms—it’s all on automatic. They even use the same kind of language when they manipulate, regardless of where in the world they live.
Some children seem to be mean from birth, although those might be few.
Question 2: In the book you mention that the Matrix was put in place to keep other people out and to keep those inside in. There can be movement across the Matrix boundary only with permission. What does that mean for starseeds, and anyone who says they’ve come here at this time to help humanity in the fight between light and dark? How did they get inside the Matrix if they needed permission first; and if they needed permission, why would En.ki allow that? Are people waking up within the Matrix, and so have regained some memories of who they are?
Comment: What I meant by that in the book and in the Wes Penre Papers (wespenre.com) was that the Matrix was set up that way. Now, things have slightly changed. There are holes in the Grid, where soul-minds can get in, although most of them get captured and sent into the reincarnation wheel. There are too many holes, and the Overlords/Archons can’t guard them all.
I don’t know why some people call themselves “starseeds.” All souls are starseeds—that’s how souls are made. Although there might be a very few soul-minds who have entered the Matrix with the sole intention to help, I would say they are exceptions from the rule. Even those are getting caught into the reincarnation cycles and trapped. They would not so easily regain their memories. My own logic tells me that most of these so-called starseeds are just regular humans who are waking up like the rest of us, but at the same time, they want to feel “special,” so that part of them, which is grandiose and “important,” is most likely their imagination rather than a fact. That does not mean they want to help and are waking up. Young people today who are waking up are usually doing so faster than my generation did. I think that’s a lingering effect from the nanosecond, between 1987-2012, when we were aligned with the energies from the Galactic Center—the Central Fire.
I understand this viewpoint on star seeds may be controversial, but I’m saying the above based on my own research and conclusions. Not everybody will agree.
Question 3: Since you say our soul has been split into many units that are living other lives, do we have to wait for all these other fragments to die and leave the Matrix before we can be a whole 3-UC again?[1]
Comment: The short answer is no. To be a whole 3-UC, we only need the following combination of three: soul-mind-spirit body. Our concentration should be on going through the Grid after body death. Then, when we’re on the other side, my advice is to think ourselves to the Queen, who will help us out from there. If these other soul aspects of ours (soul splinters) need to reconnect with the soul part of us that exit the Matrix, the Queen will help us with that. Only concentrate on two things, 1) exit through the Grid, and 2) think yourself to the Queen (Orion is thought responsive).
Question 4: How does one deal with the loneliness of knowing the truth and failing to educate others? I’ve come to realize that the more you learn and break free of this matrix created by EN.KI, the more people you lose somehow, most of them toxic, but still the loss causes loneliness. One of my friends that I’m still in contact with knows about the global elite and believes in life in the universe. But she wants to reincarnate no matter what. I told her about your amazing and wonderful work, which helped me a lot (you’re actually one of the few, maybe even the only truthseeker whom I fully trust since your work resonated with me deeply), but she refused to read it. I told her that if she wanted to skip the WPP, I could buy her the Orion book, since Amazon doesn’t exist in her country, but she refused. It’s as if she was shocked that I wanted to leave this hell and shook her head at me. She’s a very practical person, so maybe she thinks that my fantasies have gone too far. But I know in my heart that the story of the WPP and the Orion books is true. I also know that everyone’s story is different. Still, I feel like I’m failing, especially with helping the only friends that I have left.
Comment: This is unfortunately something so many people deal with when they are waking up. They feel isolated, they may lose friends, partners, and make other “sacrifices” because they are no longer on the same path as the majority of humankind. My advice is always, when it comes to educating others: give them some bits and pieces and see how they react. If there is no interest, leave it! Don’t force anything on anybody. Not everybody is up to the point where they start questioning things and really begin to dig deeper. Most people are too afraid—particularly to look inside themselves. Truth seeking is not only something we do outside ourselves, such as in books and videos. That is a small part of it, and something we do extensively up to a certain point. But one day we realize that we can only find so much truth in literature and online. The real work starts when we look into ourselves for healing. That’s when the truth is revealed. Then we need less and less outside “evidence” of how things work. We just “know.” Real truth-seeking is an inner journey, not an outer journey. It’s the Journey of the Mind.
When it comes to loneliness, the only soulution to that is to find like-minded people. Sign up on forums, make contact with people you are drawn to, discuss what you have found out, and ask questions. Sharing is essential because it speeds up the awakening process. The most important thing, all categories, is communication! Whether it’s in a romantic relationship, or otherwise, communication is the key to everything—honest communication. If that is lacking, and we stop communicating in general, we will eventually go backward. We will keep everything inside, and it builds up. We become more solid and dense instead to the intended opposite. We don’t need a huge group or friends, etc. It is even enough to have one or two we can communicate with—it’s all an individual choice and depends on our needs. But there are forums online where we can find like-minded. I have a forum, too, for those who don’t know, and it’s at https://wespenreboards.com . Anyone can join!
Question 5: You recommended a video by Sam Vaknin on YouTube titled “Narcissism: why you can’t get over them w/ Sam Vaknin.” I cannot find the title on YouTube. I tried to copy and paste the link in the book’s footnotes but I’m not able to. Could you provide that hyperlink for us?
Comment: I am sad to say that since The ORION Book was published, there is a copyright dispute between Sam Vaknin and Richard Grannon, who both appear in the video you’re looking for. Therefore, the video is taken down from both channels, and it’s uncertain if it will ever reappear. We will see. If so, I will link it to this blog at https://wespenrevideos.com.
But there are other videos on the similar topic by Sam Vaknin, so I will link them here, and I highly, highly recommend them!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqqje8KsL90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kMMkp_XacU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKSlbr0yuEk&t=325s
Question 6: In the Orion book, it stated that En.ki was the first narcissist. If that is so, would his mother (Queen Orion) be at fault, as you mentioned that all mothers are at fault?
Comment: I would say yes, in a sense. We naturally tend to think that the Queen of Orion is all-knowing and in control of everything. She is not. That is just something the Biblical God (En.ki/YHVH/YeHoVaH) has manipulated us into thinking that HE is. The Universe is created with an intention to expand, letting individual soul-minds create the Universe as they go along. Therefore, no one knows what will happen next—not even the Queen. When She created En.ki, who is an Archangel, the Universe was fairly young, and She did not have much experience operating in Her own Universe. She is learning together with the rest of us who inhabit it. She created En.ki as an Archangel with certain traits, and lacking others that regular soul-minds have, e.g., the ability to achieve Spirit and become a creator god. If we do a little research on Archangels, we see they are envious of us who are born with Spirit, and En.ki, as the firstborn of Archangels, initially saw himself as being “above” all others. He taught soul-minds things they needed to know, but he started looking down at them, seeing himself as superior to them. He became entitled and grandiose.
I would say the first narcissistic injury probably happened when some soul-minds gained Spirit. Archangels can’t. And he saw the Queen’s love for Her creations, and he got jealous—and he showed it. At that point, the Queen probably had no idea about narcissism, and what that entails. Then, when Archangel Michael (Ninurta/Prince En.lil) got En.ki’s position among Archangels, it led to a complete narcissistic injury, and one thing led to another. I think even the Queen got wiser after She noticed En.ki’s reactions to Her actions. My conclusion is that something like this happened when it comes to arch-narcissism.
Question 7: I’m confused…if there are holes in the grid, wouldn’t that make the water from the firmament seep through? I know a dome covers or is under the grid but how do we go through the dome?
Comment: The Grid is positioned around Earth, and so is the Dome. The Dome is physical, and because the 3-UC is not physical, the Dome won’t affect us after we die. We can go right through it, just like a ghost can go through walls—the 3-UC exists in another dimension that is not 3-D.
It is the Dome that keeps the upper water separated from the lower waters (rivers, oceans, etc.), according to Genesis 1 and many other ancient texts, from which the Bible took its narrative, and it’s done with technology. So, first we have the Dome, and “above” the Dome is the Grid, which is non-physical, and therefore, we need to find a hole through which we can leave. When we’re in the astral, we are already in the cosmic waters. And of course, outside the Grid, we are, as well.
I don’t want to confuse the matters, but we tend to think about space as distance, but that is only a projection. There is no distance. This is why we can travel with our minds; particularly when we are not trapped in the Matrix. The mind knows no distance—travel is instant. If you live in America, think about going to Australia in your mind. How long did it take? I would say it was instant. Everything that is outside is first inside us (to make terms that are useful when we communicate about this). Everything is sharing the same space—we just travel by changing our vibrations as soul-minds.
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[1] 3-UC means “3 Unit Composite.” To be a complete human, we need to comprise three units: soul, mind, and spirit body. The spirit body is the Namlu’u body—not the homo sapiens body. Most people today are disconnected from their spirit body because of our amnesia.