By Wes Penre, May 2, 2023
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Question 1: Even though our power to manifest comes from within, does that completely bar us from things such as pagan practices (minus giving our power away to a “deity”)? I’ve personally found that such practices, if used as a tool rather than a crutch, helped me direct intentions and energy and keep focused in protecting my energy. Maybe others feel the same way?
Comment: This is a good question that I think more people have asked themselves. What we call magic or magick (to separate from stage magic) here in the Matrix is nothing more than learning how to tame and direct energy. Everything is energy: we use it all the time when we create, think, move around… in everything we do. Therefore, “pagan practices” are the same thing, and it totally depends on how we use it—for “good” or for “evil.” It becomes dangerous when entities and deities are involved in the practices. It’s super-important not to try to connect with any such beings. It usually doesn’t end well.
Question 2: Last week I met a friend who is a lightworker and is into astral travel stuff, ascended masters etc. He says that he has met with ascended masters (Archangel Michael). I started discussing the Wes Penre Papers with him, and his reaction was totally against you. He was angry that you are saying the opposite and misleading people. According to him, Orion is the enemy and Sirians are the good guys (you have told this in level 1 how the things are manipulated to put Orion in a bad picture). Also, he says that exiting through the Grid is a coward’s idea. We have to serve this planet and make it a better place. I tried telling him that it’s a choice if we can’t come back or exit. Wes, how to explain it to the lightworkers? So many of them are not ready to listen.
Secondly, we know elites have a depopulation agenda, but ultimately Enki is going to recycle the souls, so don’t you think the depopulation agenda will put a break on this process? Why would Enki want fewer souls getting recycled, or is it that he wants to eliminate certain types of people and keep recycling the rest?
The way we produce children today is favourable to Enki’s soul trap. How will we bring children here who can work to destroy this matrix?
Comment: This lightworker, like you said, has made the exact opposite conclusions compared to me, and that’s of course his choice. He obviously relies on sources I don’t want to mess with. It seems he has made up his mind and is firmly holding on to it—at least for now. You ask how to talk to them to make them understand. The answer I will give you is that you don’t. Don’t try to convince anyone about anything—we all have freewill to think what we want. My advice in general is to only discuss these things with people who have an open mind and are at least willing to listen and ponder. Other than that, give people the information once and see how they react. If they are not interested or ridicule you, never bring it up again. If they are interested, continue discussing with them. They are ready when they are ready, and even if they never get ready, we must accept that. Also, the more we try to convince somebody who doesn’t want to listen, the more stubborn they will become to prove themselves right.
Orion stresses that we must NOT produce more children in this matrix. These children would be the ones who go into the Singularity, and as educated parents who are also aware of the Overlords’ agenda, why would we want that to happen to our children? But En.ki also wants to stop reproduction for entirely different reasons. He has more people than he needs right now for his agenda. He needed all these people to retrieve information about us through the Internet and social media. But the Overlords can only completely control and handle a certain number of people, so they don’t want us to reproduce anymore. Thus, people’s infertility rate is rapidly increasing by putting things in our foods, and by other means.
But more importantly, they want people to die off and become infertile for another reason. While people start dying off, the EL-ite scientists create cyborg babies in laboratories (they have already started—it’s mainstream news. You can google it). Then, they put human souls inside these cyborgs, and voila! There we have the first cyborg generation everybody’s been talking about. So, those who die off now and do not go through the Grid might end up in one of these baby bodies and become “immortal,” without aging and without dying. Even the Bible mentions this in Revelation 9:6, New King James Version: “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.”
Regarding bringing children to the world to destroy the Matrix—we should not do that for anything. No more children. It is not our job to destroy the Matrix. If or when it will be destroyed is up to Orion.
Question 3: Hi Wes! At the end of your book, you make the claims that Pleiadians are back here from the future to try to warn us, but also to deter us from a tyranny in their timeline. So, to me that means that there were truth-people in the Metaverse, possibly with the chip in their head, but still retained the truth and rebelled? So based on that theory why couldn’t some truth speakers today, as we are, insert themselves into the metaverse, like an undercover operation, get the chip and then organize a revolt within it… just seems very hard for me to accept, especially once you take the chip. So, I’m just wondering how they did it the first time around because we know it’s going to happen because the Pleiadians already went through it, according to you.
Comment: Just a small correction: It’s not according to me that the Pleiadians went through the consequences of a previous Singularity. It’s according to them.
We don’t know exactly what happened at that previous event because as far as I know, the Pleiadians never revealed the exact chain of events. But what it seems like is that there was a previous Singularity (or perhaps more than one?), and the Overlords made some kind of mistake, so humans who were locked into the Virtual World “woke up.” They still could not be free, but they could choose to invade the creator and the mastermind of the Virtual Reality World (the Singularity), which is En.ki.
Could that happen again? Hypothetically—yes. Would we want to send in agents who take the chip, trying to wake up people in the Metaverse? That would be the same thing as coming from outside this current Matrix (Earth), trying to warn humankind. Unless you know what you’re doing, you will be trapped in the reincarnation cycle with everybody else. A similar thing would most likely happen in Metaverse. Even if we do that and cause a new rebellion, what do we gain? Those who rebelled previously, according to the Pleiadians, are still trapped in En.ki’s simulation as cyborgs. There is only one way out I know of, and that’s through the Grid, and refuse to get lost in Metaverse/the Singularity.
Question 4: So, this question would be for those who are in their 20’s and have learned from your information and their own research. Maybe they aren’t financially stable yet and are still figuring out how to get themselves out of the system, or cities. I’m sure this might be a concern for them and may even induce a panic response in a worst-case scenario. There may even be some that can’t tolerate being in the workplace, the reason being it’s too toxic. What would you suggest that could make their situation lighter, so they could eventually achieve some level of independence?
Comment: These are very important questions, and I wish I had some brilliant solution for this dilemma. I am not in my 20s myself, but those who are likely to have a long, full life ahead of them that they must deal with. What to do? Well, although we might have figured out some of the details of what is awaiting regarding Metaverse and the Singularity, we don’t know everything, and plans can change at any time. I think we must play it by ear. I have no good solution for what to do if people are young, and Metaverse will take over everything. The EL-ite and the Overlords can’t force people to enter the Metaverse, but they can make it very difficult for those who refuse.
I think there will come a time when those who are awake will come together because they have little to no choice, and they will create their own communities. There are a fair number of people worldwide who do not want to participate in this vicious agenda and have seen through it. Rather than giving in, necessity will be the mother of invention. The important part is to find solutions that last throughout their lifetime and make sure no more children are brought into the world by their doing… no more children! That should go unsaid because why would we want our children to succumb to the Singularity, while we, the adults, do everything we can to avoid it ourselves?
I’m sorry I can’t be of more help than this now, but currently, I am of the mindset that we must keep ourselves educated on what is happening in nanotechnology and play it by ear…
Question 5: Is Marduk (Satan) still at war with his father En.ki (Yaldabaoth/Lucifer/Krishna)? Is he working “with” his father? Are they playing roles? Marduk is the extreme or super psychopathic being—something unique to him and Ereshkigal—so, will he combine his faction of the AIF with Yaldabaoth’s faction?
Comment: It’s not possible for us to know exactly what will happen, of course, so we can only guess and hypothesize. It’s always seemed to me that En.ki and Marduk want the same thing—the Singularity—out of necessity. If they don’t go on with it, they will eventually exhaust their soul energy, and they will die permanently. The arguments between En.ki and Marduk seem to be mostly about how the end goal should be achieved, by what means, and who should be in charge. Could their conflict be good for us? Hard to say. It could, but then again, I doubt it.
Question 6: I’ve followed you for years now and just recently learned about Howdie Mickoski, who follows a very similar path to yours regarding exiting the grid. He lays out parts of a plan but not the entire thing. He says one has to do a recapitulation – writing down every person and event in your life from now going backwards to birth. He says we will need this to not be tricked by the archons into returning here. You’ve said we just have to look for the hole in the grid and if we somehow don’t get out then to not follow them in no matter what. What is your take on this?
Comment: My comment to that is short. No, we don’t need to do that.
It’s a very good idea, however, to work on ourselves to wake ourselves up and to get to know ourselves on a deeper level. That will benefit us on the other side if we want to be effective creator gods. I think it’s important to work on getting in control of our emotions and use them wisely instead of reactively. I have shared my own healing process on my blog[1]. It might not be for everyone, but it works well for me. If not for you, do some research until you find something that is customized for your own healing.
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