Q&A Session #1, April 2024

By Wes Penre. April 1, 2024

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People who have read my new book, Simulations and the Wheels of Time in the Developing Worlds, can start asking questions, and just like I did with the Isis Book and the ORION books before that, I will do special Q&A sessions for the new book.

Now to this week’s questions:

Question #1: Can you explain what exactly dragons are? Are they to be understood literally, and what is the difference between red and white dragons?

Comment: We all know how a mythological dragon looks like, and it’s usually breathing fire. The entire dragon mythology is a metaphor for the Queen of Orion, who is also considered a dragon. Why? Because she breathes fire, which is the life force that makes up who we are as Avatars. We comprise trillions of fires, as explained in my work. So, dragon breath is the breath of life. The story of St. George defeating the Dragon is a metaphor for Marduk slaying Tiamat (see Enûma Eliš, the Babylonian Creation Story). It’s about him destroying our original planet, in which the Queen had invested her Spirit. This is also discussed at length in the WPP, Levels 2 and 4.

Red or white dragons I believe are often related to certain organizations, nations, and secret societies. Here, on Earth, the Queen is mainly represented by one of her aspects, Isis, and in this physical realm, she is the Creatrix. In the Isis book, I wrote about the “War of the Roses,” taking place a few hundred years ago. The two clans were represented by a white and red rose, respectively. It was all about bloodlines and the Holy Grail, i.e., Isis’ blood/DNA. I would argue that there is nothing different about red and white dragons. It’s still on the same subject: Which bloodline is going to dominate here on Earth? It’s about ownership of the human soul group. It’s complicated but discussed at some length in my book, The Story of Isis and the War on Bloodlines. In the Matrix, it’s all about bloodlines. That’s what everything boils down to.

Question #2: I have previously asked where our 3 UC is “stored,” and you said outside this matrix. So, recently I decided to follow the silver cord, which keeps us attached to our bodies, and I was surprised to see that it led to Saturn, but in particular to the hexagon.

If this is true, and I am not saying it is, it would be by deceit that we are kept there as I believe our 3 UC can leave by thought and our own power, but if we are deceived into believing we are part of the Matrix, we would stay.

Your thoughts?

Comment: Yes, one could say the 3-UC is stored outside the Matrix, but more accurately would be to say it exists inside us. We carry ourselves with us all the time, but the Matrix soul-mind, which we operate by in our daily lives, is usually not in connection with it.

Basically, everything regarding our 3-D simulation seems to start on Saturn. It seems to be the main “server,” or “projector,” so to speak. I am not sure about how you concluded that the silver cord can be traced to Saturn, but it doesn’t matter for the sake of the overall context in this question. I can only repeat myself and suggest that all we need to do is to go through the Grid. I am not going to complicate that simple procedure. I tried to simplify it as much as I could in this article: https://wespenrevideos.com/2023/09/17/the-ultimate-way-to-exit-through-the-grid/.  

Question #3: You consistently cite Wikipedia as the source for your historical information.

To my understanding, so far, that source is about censorship – organized manipulation. In certain areas the lexicon becomes a pseudo-encyclopedia and has been dominated (in these areas) for years by a small group, consisting of around 200 people. The only thing left that looks like a reference book is in the hands of dogmatists and people who write on Wikipedia 24/7 but have no qualifications in the fields they write about. This is how educated people see it.

So, how can a comprehensive work based on it even be correct?

Comment: It is true that I often use Wikipedia as a source, but mainly because in these cases, it does confirm what I was trying to say. It’s rarely the other way around. But to be fair, I also use other sources, not only Wikipedia. However, I could have used other sources altogether and excluded all Wikipedia references, but how do you determine whether another source is “better?” Is the information we get from universities or other “authorities” and institutions more truthful?

I agree that Wikipedia is not a good source to use for everything we want to know, but not everything written there is deceitful, either. And at the end of the day, it’s up to each person to determine, of course, whether my information and the Wikipedia references make sense.

Question #4: The Namlú’u souls and the 2-UCs go to the BLA (Between Lives Area) after body death, but what happens to the NPC souls after body death? Do they also go to the BLA through the tunnel of light, or do they have a different destination where they are dismantled? Or do they just disappear after the body dies?

Comment: Some of you might be familiar by now with my terms, 3-UC (a short-term for humans, comprising soul-mind-spirit body), and 2-UC (comprising soul and mind but lacking spirit body). However, here in the Matrix, both 3-UCs and 2-UCs have an artificial soul, which also is our astral avatar—a “bad copy” of our genuine Avatars (with a capital “A”). It was created by En.ki. The astral body is also the blueprint for the physical body, and the astral body also gathers all experiences and memories from our physical lifetime. When we die, most people go to the recycling center via the tunnel of light, where their astral body gets destroyed together with all the memories and experiences from your recent incarnation. That energy gets harvested by the Overlords, and you get a new astral body for your next incarnation. You fill it up during the new lifetime, starting with a blank slate when you’re born (full amnesia). But we, as 3-UCs, are attached to En.ki’s artificial soul, so the genuine us also experience what the artificial soul experiences, so nothing is truly lost.

However, as I see it, an NPC is an artificial soul only. There is nothing “genuine” with it, so when a sapiens body, hosting an NPC, dies, the astral body is destroyed, just like it is for us. The difference is there is no genuine soul-mind occupying the artificial soul in an NPC, so “it” ceases to exist, and all energy is harvested, and that’s the end of that “person.” They don’t reincarnate as we define reincarnation because there is no one there. And yes, I would suggest they go through the tunnel as well and then get dismantled in the recycling center.

The egg-shaped galactic center, the “Womb of the Mother.” The Mother is “laying more eggs” (stars, held together through magnetism, building a galaxy. Each star is an egg, and each planet is as well. Inside those eggs, there are developing star races.

Question #5: I’ve been thinking, is there really even such thing as “divine” masculine? If everything starts out as female, the Creator is feminine in nature, there is Mother Earth, and it is the female meant to “save” or remind man. Is there really such thing as masculine, except for in physical existence?

I had this thought when I was thinking about the XX and XY chromosomes. Since EVERY embryo starts off female and then decides to change or not, and the only thing that distinguishes male from female is the Y chromosome. As if something was taken out of the second X, just enough to create something else. There can be life with just X chromosome, but there cannot be life with only Y chromosomes. YY could never exist, there has to be at least one X. So maybe there is no “Father” aspect at all and that is only a physical experience/expression. That the “masculine” is physical only, basically only the experiment of forgetfulness while in a physical realm. That Khan Enlil, even though he “married” the Queen, is still only a physical being and not a Spiritual being. Or he is Spiritual and just playing the “role” of masculine for the physical presence? Or something like Queen/Creator/keeper of Spirit and “King” the keeper of Physical? Is there “Divine Masculine” in Spirit Herself or is it representative only in PHYSICAL realms as something needed for there to be physical existence?

I did an ayahuasca ceremony earlier in my truth seeking adult life, and when you do one of these ceremonies you are supposed to set an intention, what you wanna heal, what question you want answered, or whatever. At the time I really didn’t have anything in my life I felt I needed to deeply deal with. I already felt inside that “Creator,” if anything, was female. So, I decided to use my experience to speak to “the father” and I said “ok, if you are there and real, let’s have a chat”

My experience was pretty much no experience at all. I saw a little bit of faint colorful patterns, and I felt safe and warm, but other than that there was nothing. My partner at the time had this incredible out of body experience and so I thought that maybe this trip was meant for her mainly and kinda just left it at that. Because she was not who I originally was going to go with. It wasn’t until a week or two later that I realized why I had the experience I did. I was watching a documentary about ayahuasca, and the main person talked about his experience. He said that his question was, “why do good things happen to bad people?” He was shot out of his body, went through and out of the sky, kept going, seeing the cosmos and everything and he was guided by “god” he said. He was told that everything was in perfect balance in everything. One thing bad happens over here, a good thing happens over there. He came back down in his body and explained that he didn’t understand why all religions and believes all have a male figure head, i.e., Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Krisha etc. He said “because god is a woman!” He said, he was speaking to a woman and not a man. At that moment I laughed out loud and realized the Goddess has a sense of humor, and the reason I didn’t speak to anyone or see anyone was because I asked to speak to “the father,” and there was no father to speak to! So that solidified for me that I was not crazy and what I felt was correct the whole time. Creator is Feminine.

But I wonder lately as I mention above if “divine” masculine is even a thing, or is masculine energies just meant for physical realms?

Comment: Thank you for this interesting post (and question). I enjoyed reading it. Here is how I see it: There is no such thing as Divine Masculine. The Creatrix is feminine, and She is Spirit. Spirit is feminine, and creation starts out as feminine. In the Spirit Universe (the KHAA), there is no “divine masculine” needed. Spirit creates from Spirit, and Spirit is feminine. However, the masculine (having nothing to do with gender in this case) is an outward motion, an execution of the creative Feminine, which is introspective, imaginative, innovative, and creative. Not until a being starts creating in the physical universe, which is in a “lower” part of the KHAA, to use that term—a lower vibration, making things solid, like ice on water. The physical universe is made from Orion technology, while in the KHAA, you create without technology. But to use technology, or even create technology itself, it needs to first have been thought up in someone’s imagination with an intention to manifest it. Building the technology is the masculine force, even if it’s done by the same spirited being—it’s an outward motion, only needed in the physical worlds.

I would go so far as to say that so-called “masculine energy” can’t exist in the upper KHAA dimensions. Once you start using masculine energy, you automatically descend into the physical realms. You can’t create something physical in the higher regions of the Spirit Universe because it becomes “solid” and therefore ends up in the same frequency band as the rest of the physical universe.

Although the Queen and Khan En.lil are “married,” it’s just a part of the peace agreement between Orion and Sirius. Marriage does not mean the same thing in Orion as it does here. Khan En.lil, most likely, lives in the physical realm, but has access to some of the KHAA because he is not in a solid, physical body. But he most likely has no access to the Queen’s Orion Court in the Upper KHAA because it is my impression he is not spirited.

You are also making a good point with the x and y chromosomes. That’s another example that the feminine comes first, even in our simulated construct. It doesn’t matter where or what you create on a physical level—the feminine comes first, the masculine comes second. Last but not least, it’s important to distinguish between masculine/feminine as genders and masculine/feminine as life forces (introspective versus extrovert, for example).

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