Q&A Session #19, 2025

By Wes Penre, June 5, 2025

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Please note: If the question(s) you submit is/are omitted, it’s usually for two reasons: there was no space to include all questions that week, so keep an eye open for one of the following Q&As.  Alternatively, and for some reason, the question(s) did not fit the hallmark for a Q&A—perhaps too broad or complex to answer in this format. It’s never because I think a question is “stupid.”

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Question #1: You mentioned in a Q&A that the Archons are physical beings. Are they incarnated on Earth now? Where do they reside? And how does that tie in with the 7 heavens when each Archon is supposed to reside over a heaven? Are they able to flip between physical and nonphysical beings easily? How do they absorb the loosh if they are physical? Appreciate any light on the above.

Comment: Yes, they are physical beings. They were all born in the physical universe, not the spirit universe, the Pleroma, as we humans are. They are of matter, and we are of Spirit. The God of the Kenoma (the lower Seven Heavens) is Yaldabaoth. Therefore, those who pray to God, regardless of religion, are truly praying to God, but it’s the false God, the God of the Kenoma, the Seven Heavens. The God of the Kenoma received some Spirit from Pistis Sophia (the higher aspect of the Orion Queen), but it’s not “his”. It’s still Pistis’s Spirit, and his access to Spirit is very limited. I used to think Anu in ancient Mesopotamia and Khan En.lil in the WPP are synonymous, but I was wrong; I completely revealed who Khan En.lil is in the new book, “The Nature of the Multiverse,” just released on Amazon. There can be no more doubts about it, as I have provided evidence. En.ki is not the “God” of the Seven Heavens either—it’s Yaldabaoth. En.ki was Yaldabaoth’s firstborn (or, more accurately, his first emanation. See “Battles Between Shadow and Light” and “The Nature of the Multiverse” for more information).

There are Archons incarnated on Earth right now, such as Marduk and Ereškigal, but there are more than likely others, too. As far back as somewhere during the Second Atlantis, there have been Archons incarnated on Earth in human bodies.

Just like we humans can do with sufficient training, the Archons can “split” their Fires and be in more than one place simultaneously. This works since time is ultimately irrelevant. Therefore, they can be in their AI cyborg bodies simultaneously while also being nonphysical and incarnated on Earth. We all have that capacity, which will be more evident after we leave the Matrix through a hole in the Grid. Many people experience this split to some degree daily, with the phenomenon being more pronounced through astral travel and remote viewing.

Each one of the primary 12 Archons was once assigned celestial bodies by Yaldabaoth, which became their abode. These celestial bodies are also called Heavens. There are 12 altogether, but only seven pertain to us humans. These seven heavens are what we call “En.ki’s Ascension Program,” although I believe it’s more accurate to call it Yaldabaoth’s Ascension Program since he is “God.” This, and much more, is discussed in my books. Most of us have heard the expression, “I am in the Seventh Heaven,” when we feel exhilarated.

The Archons absorb loosh the same way humans absorb loosh by depleting each other by abusing one another on different levels. Let’s say we have an abusive person who is constantly bullying other humans (creative people, in particular, are their primary targets), they wait for reactions from their subjects, and when the targets react, they can suck out their energy like vampires because they themselves are low on Spirit. We see this around us all the time, and the reader has likely encountered quite a few of those destructive people; they are the antithesis of creativity and can be very dangerous to deal with, needing to be removed from our lives without hesitation. We all know the “saga” of vampires, but it’s no saga. They are real, and they suck our blood—not always physically (although that happens). Spirit is in the blood cells, and that’s what they extract. Being a target of such individuals can, over time, even lead to a person becoming anemic.  Remember, such people always know what they’re doing—it’s calculated.

Question #2: You mention somewhere in The Orion Book that, due to Lucifer’s codependency, “We are continuously executing his wishes, and we don’t even realize they are his.” Do you mean this also applies to the thoughts that come into our minds — those that prompt us to take action, shift our mood, or even so-called “inspired” thoughts?

I ask because I came across a guru on TikTok who said:

“If you think you have free will, tell me what your next thought is going to be.”

Then he adds, “You wait. So, are you the creator of your thoughts? Go ahead, create a thought!”
He concluded: “God really is controlling every moment of my life.”

If that’s the case, how can one discern the origin or nature of their thoughts?

And finally, if someone becomes conscious of these merged or shared minds, do you think it’s possible for them to reverse the influence — to take control, in a sense — and actually influence or control the mind of god?

Comment: It’s absolutely possible to control the mind of “God,” when by God, we mean Yaldabaoth and his Archons. But since we’re in an amnesic state, it’s hard to do unless we do it collectively. But that’s a discussion for another time.

It’s true that almost everything people think while in the Matrix is “automatic.” We might seem to act differently from each other and thus have various personalities, but we act almost entirely on a program, thinking we are “unique.” We are unique, but rarely in the Matrix. We pick up thoughts and behaviors from our caregivers, other people, and the environment and often copy and mirror them without realizing it. In the Matrix, everything is mostly about survival in a very harsh environment. Therefore, when we meet someone who seems to survive just fine, we unwittingly copy and mirror that personality or the parts we think could help us survive better.

However, on rare occasions, people’s True Self bleeds through in the form of Spirit (if we are receptive). This bleed-through, when authentic, shows up as a stream of consciousness—not as thoughts but as an instant “flash” of Light (Light=Spirit=Information) comprising a larger concept we then can interpret with our “lesser mind.” This would be the human intellect, the “conscious mind” we use in the Matrix to adapt and survive here. Generally, the higher a person’s IQ, the better their chances of survival. But IQ, as we think of it, belongs to the Matrix and one incarnation only. A genius may be unintelligent in the next life and has no say in the matter.

But even when we let a stream of consciousness flow through us from Spirit, our Higher Self, we still must interpret it with our intellect, which is inferior. Again, we’re using the thought patterns available to us in the Matrix. In the WPP, The First Level of Learning, I published the Life Physics Group—California’s diagram of the “Thought Boundary” within the Matrix, from which we collect thoughts depending on which level of thinking we have access to as individuals, determined by education, intelligence, and spiritual reception. I think what those scientists said is accurate and works well as a metaphor.

There is more to say, but this has already become an essay.

Question #3: One thing is really bugging me, and I haven’t found an answer so far.

Since plants and animals are on a much higher frequency than us (handicapped ;)) humans, how do they depart and exit?

Do you have an answer to this one?

If yes, I would be super happy to hear from you.

Many thanks for everything.

Comment: I wouldn’t necessary say that animals and plants are on a much higher frequency than humans, only that they operate on other frequencies than we do, although these frequencies sometimes intersect with ours, and then we feel commonalities with flora and fauna.

Everything alive comprises Spirit, including animals and plants, or they would not exist but die. When an animal or a plant dies, their Spirit that resides in the blood cells of the animal is retracted. It’s a little different with plants. They don’t have blood or blood cells, but they have something equivalent, called xylem and phloem (look it up). It works the same way, more or less. So, when a plant dies, it’s depleted of these two “vascular tissues,” and the plant rots and mixes with the soil. However, a plant still retains its Spirit, even after someone uproots it until the xylem and phloem dissolve.

Considering what happens to human energy after death, when we are recycled, the animal and plant energy is collected in a pool and used as loosh. Since animals and plants are not essentially spiritual, no action is needed in the afterlife; all that’s required is procreation. Both animals and plants have ancestors, so the Spirit within the organism (blood cells and xylem/phloem, respectively) comes from the parent animal or the plant parent, similar to that the human Spirit, as homo sapiens, is inherited from the parents’ blood cells (primarily the mother’s). The only difference is that we have a higher spiritual self, originating at the highest level of the Pleroma, the Spirit Universe. How that Spirit is transferred between generations is discussed in the new book.

I am a fantasy writer when I’m not writing nonfiction. As such, I often connect with Nature in my writing because It is alive and has Spirit. That can manifest as good or evil, which is exciting to explore in an imaginary secondary world. Because, yes, even people who meet at high frequencies can fight. As long as we’re in the physical realms, vibrations are just vibrations; we choose how to act and react in any frequency (dimension) we enter. Also, see my comment to Question #5.

Question #4: I just read your latest Q&A, and a question jumped out at me. In an answer, you respond with the following:

“The loosh (energy) they collect from us humans is used to feed them, allowing them to survive and also to support the entire Matrix System, keeping it running.”

What would happen if they didn’t get any loosh? Would the physical world quite literally fall apart? Is this what we are seeing when previously hidden things become revealed (i.e., in court cases involving high-profile figures, or is that also an orchestrated move?) Or is it more likely to manifest as physical earth structures breaking down, like glaciers and mountainsides giving away?

I’m just curious about your thoughts, and I hope this finds you well.

Comment: If we suddenly withdrew completely from the Matrix as a soul group, the Archons would have no choice but to pull loosh from each other to survive. This was not always the case, however, which I mention in my new book. It partly has to do with Sirius, the “Dog Star.” Today, it’s different because the Kenoma is strangled from getting more energy from the Central Fire. Sophia saw to that.

Therefore, the Spirit energy that is currently in the Kenoma is all there is, and it will, eventually, be depleted. But Yaldabaoth and the Archons won’t give up the little Spirit they have, understandably, since that would mean ultimate death—they would dissolve into the VOID, so they fight for their lives, literally speaking. We humans, being tricked and descended into the lowest regions of the Kenoma, have forgotten who we are and what we’re here for. This is, obviously, deliberately done by the Archons so they can continue feeding from us until it’s time to ride our Avatars into Orion, trying to conquer it with our help. The sad part is that it doesn’t have to be this way; if the Archons repented, they could be “saved,” but they don’t have those insights. As the reader of the WPP remembers, Lucifer (Yaldabaoth) is stubborn and proud. That will be his downfall.

If all Spirit were withdrawn from the Kenoma, all life would, too, and the rocks and foundations would crumble as depicted in the “Book of Revelation” and the Gnostic text, “On the Origin of the World.

Question #5: Is vibration a genuine state of being, or is it a state one access by faking it? For example, can one harm someone while being in “high” vibration? Isn’t this what the overlords are doing while staying in a vibration high enough to be in the higher realms?

Comment: Excellent questions! This is my point of view: A “Free Spirit,” as free as She can be in the physical realms outside the Matrix (e.g., in Orion), is not stuck in a frequency of spiritual vibrations but can move freely between them, similar to a relatively emotionally healthy individual who can move up and down the emotional scale from despair and depression to pure exhilaration or higher. Only here in the Matrix are we limited to the frequency of visible light, which is essentially Yaldabaoth’s frequency. We call it 3-D.

Outside the Matrix, you vibrate at any frequency you desire at a particular moment. If you want to move to another frequency, “higher” or “lower” (even though it’s debatable if there are such terms), you change your vibration. It’s simple once we get the concept. We do it all the time in the Matrix, too, switching between different moods and vibrations. Again, this is why it’s so important not to meet the frequency of an abusive person. Move to a different frequency where he or she won’t bother you, or you won’t be affected by it. In the physical world, actions are needed, too, to accomplish this, such as going “no contact.”

Question #6: In your book “Battles Between Shadow and Light,” on page 314, you write, “Therefore, those who have awakened have begun to report to the Pleroma again.” Can you please elaborate on how this report takes place? And on page 316, “After Orion has hopefully defeated the Archons and they have saved all the people still on Earth…” What do you think the rescue might look like? Another cataclysm? (I read it in German).

Comment:  Cataclysms often happen because Spirit is withdrawn from the Matrix to a greater or lesser degree (unless when cataclysms are intentionally orchestrated to obtain a specific outcome). The purpose of our mission as a human soul group is to withdraw the archontic Spirit from the Kenoma. When that happens, catastrophes inevitably will be the consequence; it’s intended since the Kenoma is bound to be destroyed.

I consider The Matrix to be a simulation, very similar to the Matrix Movie series. We are now seeing the end of yet another simulation and the beginning of a new one: Metaverse and the Singularity. That will transfer the human consciousness into an AI Cloud, and it’s happening big time as we speak. People will not notice when it happens; it will occur seamlessly. Thus, having attention and intention to exit through the Grid would be a good idea, and keeping that intention alive is essential. Even free-thinkers will be fooled.

With the new Simulation, the Singularity comes the ultimate challenge. The Archons and their human scientists at Silicon Valley and elsewhere are utilizing nanotechnology to bring us into the Orion, the Nanoverse. They think that by controlling a hive consciousness (the Cloud), they can better control humankind since we are considered unpredictable, which is the opposite of control. Yes, we are controlled, but it could be worse. They hope a hive community is more easily maneuvered.

Once we’re in the Nanoverse (Orion), the Archons will “ride our Avatars,” as discussed in the Wes Penre Papers (WPP), to conquer Orion, using our Spiritual Power. How will it end? How will this play out? I spend quite an extensive section in the new book discussing this.

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