By Wes Penre, February 20, 2024
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Welcome to the fourth Isis Q&A. Thank you for your questions! Please send more to wespenre2@gmail.com and put Q&A in the subject line, so I won’t miss your email.
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Now to this week’s questions:

Question #1: If Isis is the spirited daughter of the Queen of Orion, why does she take on roles that are so unlike the Queen? The Whore of Babylon, Ereshkigal or Lilith, for example. These are the worst women imaginable right? I think of her like the Queen of Emoria in the Ismaril’s Sword trilogy. Am I wrong to think that she and the Queen should be of the same attributes, or is this Marduk’s doing, trying to create a negative image of the Divine Feminine so mankind will view Her poorly and make himself and the patriarchy look like the Real God?
Also, if the human soul group are all reincarnated through the tunnel of light trap after our 3D death on earth (if we don’t escape through a hole in the Grid), why do hell and Ereshkigal exist? It’s either one or the other, isn’t it?
Comment: What I have noticed is that the Queen seems to split herself into “smaller” units (fires) and let them operate in different dimensions, almost like Russian dolls. If we go deeper, it’s perhaps not even a “split”—it could be something that happens automatically in this Orion universe. I would support the latter.
We often hear that we humans are multi-dimensional, so the same thing would be the case with us: We exist throughout all dimensions, while those who are 2-UCs (lack innate Spirit) exist up to a certain dimension before they need to “grab” Spirit, after they have learned to function in all their available dimensions. Dimensions, from a metaphysical perspective, are just different vibrations of our Inner Selves—layers of frequencies existing upon each other that we can reach by just changing vibration. While in the Matrix, we only have access to a very limited vibrational frequency range—the rest of the dimensions we should have access to are hidden from us. The ability to exist throughout the dimensions is ostensibly connected with DNA. In the Isis book, I explained that DNA is not only physical—our DNA extends from the lowest to the highest echelons of the Universe. Thus, we are multi-d and potentially capable of roaming freely from the lowest to the highest.
To answer your question more directly, it has to do with density. In the KHAA (the Spirit Universe), there is no amnesia because the density is high (or low, however we want to define density. In metaphysics, high density is the “lighter” realm and would be sufficient here). The deeper we dive down the dimensions and densities, the more compact and solid things become—kind of, because even the compressed and compact physical universe exists in the KHAA like everything else, with the solidity and low density created with sound- and light-wave technology.
Living in the physical “developing worlds” automatically creates some amnesia in the soul/mind. However, in the Matrix it’s taken to a completely different level. Isis and Ereshkigal are both 3-UCs, i.e., they are spirited since they are of the Queen. They are not dissimilar from us when they exist in our realm. They are exposed to the same “laws” and “rules” pertaining to the Matrix. Therefore, they have amnesia, too, although not completely, like we do, because they don’t go through the recycling center. But living in our world affects us over time, and depending on outside influences, it may be for better or for worse. Ereshkigal appears “worse” than Isis because she is dwelling in a lower density. You and I would also be worse if we lived there.
The entire Whore of Babylon and Lilith issue is a smear campaign by Marduk, who I’m sure was furious at Isis for having started her pure Isis-Ninurta bloodline; so, he had to degrade her in public by degrading her role as a breeder and genetic scientist (although he conveniently does not mention the latter in public). He wanted to make Isis look like a “filthy whore” to use a derogatory expression.
The story of Ereshkigal/Kali is still shrouded in mystery to a degree—we don’t know too much about her, other than she is the Queen of the Underworld. Because of messed-up timelines in the ancient texts, it’s hard to predict exactly when she entered the Underworld, but at this point, I would argue she did so at the later part of the Second Atlantis, i.e., the Second Construct (Tiamat being the First Atlantis). In the Second Construct, there was no Grid and no recycling center, as we know it, so the deceased went through Ereshkigal’s realm, which then was not nearly as dense as it is now in the Third Construct (the Matrix). In Atlantis, souls were separated, and the individual journey was determined based on the person’s Destiny (more on this in my upcoming book, Simulations and the Wheels of Time in the Developing Worlds).
My conclusion so far is that after Noah’s Flood, when En.ki created the Matrix and isolated us from the rest of the Universe, Ereshkigal was unaffected by the Flood in the Underworld, and she transferred over from the Second to the Third Construct and has been here ever since. Now, her realm is far denser than it used to be. I would even suggest Ereshkigal was born on Earth and has no history before our Experiment. At least a part of her has taken on the form of Evil and is quite demonic. Do people go to Hell and stay there in some kind of Eternal Fire? That’s unknown, but there are certainly ancient texts and people who have had near-death experiences conveying having been there. Whether that is something we humans collectively have created in our minds out of fear and manipulation is unknown, and I think that is partly true because of how we interpret things. What if the “Eternal Fire” refers to souls being dissolved in the Between-Lives Area (the BLA/recycling center) and returning to the cosmic ocean, losing their personality—their soul? This is, as we’ve discussed elsewhere, something that happens between each lifetime. Therefore, is Hell a metaphor for this? Is Ereshkigal in charge of at least a part of the recycling process? That would do as a description of Hell to me.

Question #2: Hi Wes, so I’m sitting here on this Sunday thinking about Genesis. Of course, what did Enki really create in 6 days? One of them, I believe, is he separated the permanent upper Waters from the lower Waters as we here know, what that really meant.
But there must be a meaning to why he picked six days and in the 7th Day to rest.
Comment: I included this question, even though I’m not going to answer it here—sorry. The reason being that this subject will be thoroughly discussed in my upcoming book, but your question will give a hint at yet another subject that will be included in the book for those who are interested. Still, I want to give you and the reader something to ponder in the meantime: The answer has to do with astrology and the wheels of time…

Question #3: We’re wondering about “DNA” – there is physical DNA and then there seems to be spirit DNA of some sort when a body is inhabited (based on your descriptions of Isis and her various incarnations).
Is each 3-UC then comprised of a combination of physical DNA as well as what the soul/spirit brings with?
We’re curious about this with regard to children who are brought into being via in-vitro (donated eggs). Since children appear to ‘choose’ their parents, then it seems that the physical DNA is not as important as the spirit-track in continuing the family line. Seems like it must be this way, as otherwise, it wouldn’t be significant if Isis inhabited a body without her DNA affecting the bloodline..? I hope you understand our query!
Comment: Yes, you are correct. DNA is our ID in the KHAA—it identifies one being from another, since DNA is unique for each one of us. DNA is the building block of all life in the Universe, from the most solid stone to the most ethereal part of a living being. Your experiences in the Matrix and the Universe in its entirety build your unique DNA signature; but it always has an origin, which for us is the Namlú’u human species in Tiamat. So, when we incarnate in a body, always in our own ancestral line, we add all combined DNA from our own physicality (that of our ancestors) with our soul imprint, and it all becomes a part of our overall experience, making up our DNA structure. It doesn’t matter whether we have personally experienced it, or if it was our great grandfather’s experience—we collect and combine it all. In the developing worlds, star beings incarnate as a soul group, and as such they are connected on a mutual level, and in this matrix, the so-called mass consciousness is kept intact through a constant connection with our ancestral lines, funneling into one common ancestor, starting our bloodline.
Children don’t choose their parents, unfortunately. We have no choice other than to incarnate into the same bloodline/ancestral line we’ve been incarnated into since the beginning of the Matrix. It’s important for the Khan Kings, who run the show, to keep our bloodlines in check the best they can because in that way, they can trace us more easily through our DNA. The importance lies in both the soul DNA and the physical DNA because they merge to become one. Regarding Isis, both these DNA imprints in her (her “blood”)—physical of metaphysical—are equally important when concerning us humans.

Question #4: If we originally were not in male or female bodies and we didn’t procreate [in Tiamat, Wes’ comment], was it the same for all the other animals and creatures as well? Did En.ki get the idea to separate us into “male,” “female,” from the rest of nature? Or where did that idea stem from? Thanks so much!
Comment: Tiamat existed in the KHAA. It was not “physical” the way we use the term. That construct was mostly ethereal with some elements connected to the physical because of the dropdown “Russian doll effect” (see my comment to Question #1 above). In Tiamat, there was no death. Whatever existed there did not die and did not procreate—it was Spiritual in nature. It had the Queen’s Spirit sprinkled into it, and upon that, we humans created more as we went along, but not by procreating: We created in our minds, and it manifested in “thin air” as we thought it up. The entire Experiment was all about what kind of world we would create if left alone. Would it be more compassionate and benevolent than the worlds currently created in the physical universe? If so, the Queen’s plan was to from thereon continue creating more constructs where the soul groups were spirited from birth. From what I’ve learned, the Human Experiment went just fine until the physical beings (the Khan Kings) invaded and destroyed it all.
Yes, it was En.ki who “divided” us into genders and gave us testosterone and estrogen hormones, which has created such horrible effects on the human soul group. It’s a completely foreign concept, and we humans have adapted very poorly to that—particularly testosterone, which often makes us aggressive, competitive, and right-out violent, possessive, and abusive.

Question #5: When Isis reincarnates here on earth (name of person withheld, not to spoil it for those who have yet to read the book) does she come with a full memory?
Comment: I would say no. She is subjected to amnesia, as well, but Orion beings, and others from outside the Construct, use crystals to store memories and information so they can retain it during a new incarnation. However, I imagine the Khan Kings (or Marduk, rather) might have either stolen or kept Isis’ memory bank away from her during certain incarnations, which perhaps was the case with the person you mentioned in your question, whose name I withheld.

Question #6: With the blood types here on earth, are O+ people 2 UCs being En.ki and the Queen of the Underworld prodigies? Will O+ people be able to exit through the Grid as they are more of a concentration on En.ki’s DNA? Thanks so much can’t wait to buy your next book!!
Comment: The positive and negative blood types have little to do with whether the person is a 2-UC or a 3-UC.
O+ is the most common blood type these days, followed by A+. I suggested in the Isis book that those blood types mainly come from Marduk and Ereshkigal, from their genetic tinkering.
Blood types are of no consequence when it comes to exiting through the Grid.
So-called NPCs (non-player-characters) lack original soul/mind and Spirit, are En.ki’s artificial creation, originating within the Matrix. Thus, they can’t function in the KHAA, only having an artificial soul—they only have one life.

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Thankyou so much Wes for the incredible information that you share with us. I have read your WPPs twice and found them to be fascinating. I’ve also read Zechariah Sitchin’s, (Earth Chronicles) three times. I also studied Christianity and Judaism for 21 years and taught myself to read 4 kinds of Hebrew script. Sephardic, Ashkenazi, block form and cursive script. I basically just read my way out of Christianity because of the obvious recognition of just how evil the Jehovah/Yahweh/The Lord character really is. I’m rusty on cursive script and have no desire to pursue that anymore due to the fact that it seems to be a worthless script. It may seem morbid, but I wish I could just drop this body and return to our original construct and go through the process of retrieving my original mindset so as to continue my destiny as a creator God. This life here is in many ways, just plain miserable, considering all the evil that the globalists are spreading by their nefarious plans. I just wanted to take the time to once again express my seemingly infinite appreciation for your priceless information that you’ve selflessly shared with us. The dots that I did not connect were supplied by your research and because of this additional information my consciousness expanded to a universal perspective. I think I can speak for everyone. We all just respectfully love you as a great friend and fellow family member that we owe an eternal debt of gratitude. By the way, I’m 73 and I live in Pinehurst , Texas. Looking forward to meeting you on the other side.
Your Friend Gregery A. Mueller
Yes I grew up as many of us did being told the story about heaven and hell and a devil and a good God. I think most humans stayed at that point and will go to the grave at that point. However for some of us we want to know more so we set off and we search and actually if you’re at this point reading these blogs you will have come full circle, because the devil really does run this construct and there is a heaven and hell, all in your mind, and what you make it. But researchers like Wes has figured out the names and the dates (actually going the farthest up that mountain from what I have found) and I thank him for that. Thank you Wes for shedding the true light on this construct, see you on the other side someday.