Q&A Session #2, April 2024

By Wes Penre, April 8, 2024

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Here is a new Q&A. Thank you for your questions, but I need more! Please send to wespenre2@gmail.com and put Q&A in the subject line so I won’t miss your email.

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People who have read my new book, Simulations and the Wheels of Time, can start asking questions they might have in the book, and just like with the Isis Book and the ORION books, I will do special Q&A sessions for the new book.

Now to this week’s questions:

Question #1: In the book of Isis, it says Isis impregnated herself (using her own underutilized egg) and had Jesus. This was her bloodline, the Isis/En.lil bloodline, but somehow Marduk was able to incarnate into Jesus’ body. Then at the time of the crucifixion, Simone of Cyrene, who helped Jesus bare the cross possibly switched places with him and endured the painful torment that followed. An interesting take on the Bible story.  Jesus being Marduk resonates with me.

Comment: When we talk about Isis “impregnating herself,” we speak of genetic engineering and tinkering. The gods and goddesses work with DNA to create the kinds of beings they want. The “pure” Isis bloodline I discuss in the book is her DNA in combination with Ninurta’s. Isis had her own plans, which she didn’t reveal to Marduk or any other Overlord. However, she was living in the midst of the Overlords’ Matrix, which means she had to plan well, and sometimes she must most likely give in to Marduk’s demand, having her own agenda on the side (which was to secretly pass on the Isis-Ninurta bloodline through the Merovingians, but Marduk managed to manipulate that, as well. See my Isis book).

So yes, it certainly seems Marduk was the version of Jesus we are used to reading about in the Bible and the Christian Gnostic texts, but it becomes more and more obvious that the New Testament, following Jesus’/Marduk’s whereabouts in that incarnation, is not what happened in “real life.” The Jesus story is a compilation of much earlier stories—some going back to old Atlantis, even, and are in some ways based on the Mother Goddess “religion.” Marduk wanted to create a new religion (Christianity), so he needed a narrative, and that become the Jesus story, most likely dictated to the scribes (authors of the Gospels) by Marduk himself. The entire Jesus nonsense helped Marduk creating Christianity, elevating himself to God and the Son of God (the Savior) at the same time. And to reach God, you must “go through the Son (Sun).” He also took on the title of Archangel Michael, which will be very useful for him in the “End Times,” when Michael/Ninurta is supposedly coming back to fight the evil forces, according to prophecy. Thus, Marduk becomes both the “Savior” and the “Villain,” playing both sides, fooling many people, and covering all ground. At least, that seems to be the plan, unless it has changed.

Question #2: Did the Multiverse always exist or did this new concept become a reality during the past century made possible by the creation of the CERN machine?  I’m assuming the time jumpers, similar to Scott Bakula in “Quantum Leap,” can go back and forth in the timeline and make adjustments as they see fit. The movie Tenet was also very intriguing and mind-boggling regarding inversion technology and being attacked from the future while also having a team from the future trying to prevent it from happening in the current timeline. These are confusing times, even for those aware of the technology and how that is possibly being used against us.

Comment: The Multiverse has “always” existed if we are discussing multiple universes rather than just dimensions. In the WPP, the Second Level of Learning, I described Creation, using a pond as a metaphor. The pond is the cosmic ocean (Spirit), and upon the ocean, waterlilies are floating in clusters of twelve. Each lily is a universe in that metaphor (it goes deeper than that, but it’s for another time). So, we don’t know how many clusters there are and how many universes.

As a side note, some readers might find it curious that waterlilies are used as a part of the metaphor, since the lily is a symbol for Mary Magdalene, aka Isis. Something to ponder, perhaps?

Regarding timelines: Yes, there are countless timelines because we create new timelines every time we make a choice. But the timeline that is most important is the one taken on by the entire soul group as the general timeline. Although we also have our own personal timelines, to an extent, it’s always the current soul group timeline that propels our common fate forward.

Question #3: Before I came across the WPP via a number of other ‘exit the matrix’ persons, I followed Howdie Mickowski and still listen in on occasion. It seems HM and some others believe we have to find the non-ego “I” thru some process that completely alludes me. He uses the teaching of Richard Rose, an enlightened teacher from the 70s. The reasoning goes that unless we are identified with this true “I” then at death we are a-coming right back here as the “on the other side” it will be too challenging, and we won’t cope if we die as an aware but not fully enlightened human, whatever that is. We will simply identify with what’s unreal, untrue, and be unable to get free. I am watching subscribers to the HMs group go into deep-dive metaphysical detail, and I see some struggling, and a blaming of self for not getting with the programme. He never used to do this. I wonder if it’s to keep producing content, not sure. I’ve been bugged by the enlightenment idea for decades, but any attempt by me to achieve it has been laughable. I always happily return to my normal everyday state (which isn’t that normal if you got to really know me LOL). I have read and reread your simple statement about the ease of exit to anyone aware of the opportunity to leave,[1] so please answer me this: Is it easy, and can I put the trying to be anything other than what I am (in this matrix) behind me? Is it necessary to do any particular practises to exit, and are any practises actually helpful or are they a hindrance? Thanks for answering this, it is a particularly burning question for me.

Comment: I find nothing useful in these people’s narratives, to be honest, except that we need to connect with our true “I,” at least to some degree, before we exit. But that’s redundant in itself because no one would exit if they did not envision an existence “outside” the Matrix. Sporadically connected with Spirit (the “I”) does not in itself guarantee that the person will exit. He or she needs knowledge and to make a firm choice to leave through the Grid.

I know many people are anxious about exiting through the Grid. Some are nervous because they think they may fail due to some mistake on the way, while others are anxious because they are afraid of the unknown—to go back to the Greater Universe (Orion), of which they know very little. After all, here in the Matrix, we are reduced to experiencing only three dimensions. But once we’re outside the Matrix, the fear we might feel today will resolve to a large degree.

The reason I wrote the “simple article,” so to speak (see footnote below), was because I wanted to narrow everything down into one article, and that’s it. My purpose was to tell people that if they follow these short instructions, they should be just fine. And actually, the questions you just gave me are all answered in that article. Everybody who is reading this, try to be simple and do not complicate things. Using an analogy: How many times can a person explain to others how to walk through a house door? One can do it the simple way, by just using the doorknob, or one can do rituals, or get an axe, when the easiest way is to just open the door.

Question #4: I have been investigating Marija Oršić and I believe she may have been Isis.

It is claimed she was a medium  who received communications from ‘extraterrestrial beings’ from the Aldebaran star system. The communications  included technical information for building advanced spacecraft – The Vril.

She was extremely beautiful, blonde and blue-eyed. She was allegedly non-sexual, and she vanished without a trace.

It seems appropriate that Marija (Mary) could be Isis, but want to understand why she would assist the Nazis (Marduk) in his plan to exterminate her own bloodline, or did she put some traps in there somewhere?

She is an interesting character in our history, who had an incredible influence yet is not highlighted.

Comment: Living in Serbia (she was Croatian), I just learned that the correct spelling of her name is Marija Oršić (pronounced Orshitch. Don’t wreck your tongues like I do, LOL).

Yes, she was an amazing character, and her story is full of mysteries and peculiarities. It’s fascinating to dig into her life and learn about what she did. It’s true she worked with the Nazis to some extent—Heinrich Himmler, I believe it was. However, in hindsight we know that the Nazis were “genociders,” but no one knew that before the war, which was when the occult Nazi officers became aware of the Vril girls and their channelings. Marija refused to work with Hitler because she was afraid of him, but Himmler was apparently a better “actor.” She was also friends with Nicola Tesla.

I don’t know if she was asexual, but she chose not to have sexual relationships, probably because it may contaminate her consciousness, which she wanted to be pure, so she could channel as accurately as possible. She also grew her hair to the ground—the longer the better, using it as an antenna, just like the longhaired Merovingian Kings (see my Isis book).

But to answer your main question: Was she Isis? When I put together my Isis book, I DID consider her as an incarnation of Isis, but soon I started doubting it. Unless it’s a secret, she never procreated, which is what she has been used for in this construct. And it seems to me her actions do not correspond with those of Isis’. I could of course be wrong, but this is my current stand.

I watched a remote viewing session about Marija, and if the remote viewers are correct, Marija was raped and shot to death in the streets of Berlin by invading Russian soldiers.

Question #5: How does a person remove the vaccines from their body if they have negative effects? Is the only possible way death? Or can they still heal themselves in any way?

Comment: I asked one of my forum members, who has done more research than I have on this topic. Of course, none of us has a medical license, but these are all natural treatment suggestion. Here are the recommendations:

“You can heal from the negative effects of vaccines by detoxing your body. In fact, the body has itself an intricate detox system and will deal with toxins on a regular basis. The covid vaccines are said to contain graphene oxides. However, these will also leave the body over time, due to the body’s detox organs.

The problem with vaccines is that toxins are injected straight into the bloodstream. When you get sick after having had a vaccine shot, your body is actually going into an emergency detox. This can be dangerous, and you might need to take it easy for a while. When the emergency detox turns out positive you get well again. But when the emergency detox is unable to cope with a toxic overload, which can be the case with a vaccine injection, chronical illness and even death can be the result.

There are many ways to help the body’s detox system, but this is not without danger. When you are sick it is probably not the right time to intervene with a detox. You might make matters worse.

A detox program is best done when your body is not too active with its own detox system. The best advice I can give is to eat healthy food, get sufficient sleep, and do everything you can to lessen the daily intake of toxins through air, water, and food.

There are supplements you can use to help detox your body as well. However, in case of vaccine damage, it is best to go to a naturopathic doctor who can determine what works best on you.”

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[1] https://wespenrevideos.com/2023/09/17/the-ultimate-way-to-exit-through-the-grid/