By Wes Penre, October 7, 2024
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Question #1: We’ve heard about the bloodlines. Especially Isis and Marduk, but what about En.lil, Ninurta? What is the history of his incarnation. The earth and Namlu’u are his responsibilities. Has he been incarnating on earth since En.ki was cast into the Abzu? Are there any historical connections you’ve been able to make? If so, what has he been up to in order to counter Marduk? It’s difficult to believe he would stand by doing nothing without being here throughout history. Certainly, he has been active somehow? Have you been able to determine if he incarcerated as any historical figures?
Comment: Prince Ninurta has not interacted with humans in the past, since before the Flood. Even when he castrated En.ki and threw him down, he was not on Earth. This happened in Orion, in the Rigel system. So, Ninurta was not actually in the Matrix. He has not been in the Matrix throughout Matrix history because En.ki put up the Grid that was not penetrable until not so many decades ago. As mentioned in my books, especially the latest book, “Battles Between Shadow and Light,” this Matrix was allowed to be set up and played out. This is thoroughly detailed in my latest book, and I advise those interested in reading the entire story there.
Question #2: When Tiamat was destroyed, most likely by nuclear weapons, isn’t it true that the Spirit gets completely wiped out from one’s body after a nuclear attack? How then did we the Namlu’u remain in a coma for thousands of years? I thought we would have perished?
Comment: Not all Namlú’u escaped the Tiamat disaster. When Marduk and his DAKH warriors won the battle, Ninurta and as many Namlú’u as possible escaped through the Saturn stargate, which was then closed. Many of us were captured here with no way to return. According to the RA Material, we were in such shock that we lost our consciousness, and we decreased in density, only to be awakened long afterward, when Orion decided to start the Earth (Second Atlantis) project and thus continue the Human Experiment.
Question #3: Regarding your new book: It is said that those who don’t repent will be thrown back with the wolves again. Does repentance means accepting what things I have done I have done things I regret maybe more in my past incarnations? But after exiting I don’t want to go to Orion, I want to explore the universe. Does it mean if I explore and don’t return to Orion, I will be thrown back to the wolves again. It is a tragedy being born, not knowing what to do and even questioning is this really what I want.
Comment: You are who you are right now. Past incarnations are irrelevant. Having gone through all previous incarnations, the person you are today is whom you have become—that’s your current personality, which you will keep as your primary persona when you leave the Matrix.
The Universe you say you want to explore is Orion—that is the Universe. The Matrix in its entirety is our solar system, and that’s it. “Outside” that is Orion. So, all the stars, galaxies, and the rest of it are all in Orion. If you don’t go to Orion, you have little choice but to stay in the solar system, which is controlled by the Khan Kings. You have all possible chances to explore the Universe once you get to Orion. You can read about the exit plans here: https://wespenrevideos.com/category/exiting-the-grid/.
Regarding repentance: We repent our connection and cut off our trauma bond with the Sirian Khan Kings and the Matrix. Over time, humans have taken on the Khan Kings’ personae more and more, and we have become like them. We need to be willing to get rid of all attachments to the Matrix and our oppressors. Those who will be left behind are those who refuse to do so and want to go with the Khan Kings or have so many hideous crimes in their closet that they could not possibly be allowed into Orion and destroy for everybody else there. Some may see this as unjust, but would we really want a serial killer living in our house, for example?
Question #4: In the Orion book, you mention the astral and how it’s actually a projection of our collective mind, and within it lies levels, so to speak – like the floors of an apartment complex.
In this case, how does this concept change the idea of there being holes in the Grid? When a person dies and ends up on a random “floor/level” of the astral, do they need to ascend to the higher levels before they see the exit points? Simply put; can a person see the holes while they’re still in floor 1, and can they actually reach them?
Lastly, you mentioned a fascinating story of this man named Monroe, who travelled the astral for decades; I’m confused as to how and why he never once saw any exit points or holes in the astral plains, he even reached the higher heavenly plains as you put it, but never once saw something akin to a way out. Why is that?
Comment: The astral is many things (but essentially an intermediary between the Matrix and Orion). We are creator gods, and what we put our passionate creation into will manifest in the astral. Sometimes, it’s just a vague thought form, but other times, it can be complex realms. Religion is a perfect example. The Khan Kings lure us into believing in a certain God and the religion they make up around it all, and because so many people believe in it, such a realm, manifests as a realistic thought form in the astral, and the God, who is always whom the Gnostics called Yaldabaoth, regardless of religion, gets all the loosh (Fire) we feed him with.
Most people are recycled after death and go into the tunnel of light, but some end up in one of these planes that Robert Monroe mentioned having visited. But even he said that the “Heaven” he’d visited was just an endless loop—it wasn’t real, although at first, it appeared to be. Astral travelers sometimes see the Grid, but they do not know what they’re looking at, and they can’t leave anyway because they are not dead. Also, “you see what you’re prepared to see.”
All you need to do after you depart from your body is what I’ve described in my writings (see link in my comment to the previous question).
Question #5: Hi Wes! So, after this whole cosmic situation has played out and justice has been served, we, as the remaining human soul group are gathered in our androgynous forms in the Pleroma. And say I saved my personality and Being from this lifetime by Getting Out is from chapter 23 (by the way chapter 23 and one reason I believe why we see the number 23 so often, a sacred number by the way— getting Out of the Head Cage, of Aleister Crowley’s Book of Law. Of course, Crowley always wrote in code, so it had to be deciphered, which Mark Passio did very nicely, not to say others haven’t done it. But say we run into a relative that did not Get Out. Will we still be able to tell that they were them, say like a past mother? Because as you have stated, and the texts have stated, that this will be resolved one day, and we will be back to where we once belonged.
Comment: Our next station after we exit will be Orion rather than the Pleroma (the Spirit Realm in which we were born as spiritual beings), but we will eventually return to the Pleroma. The Gnostic texts tell us that in the end, everything will be revealed (since Light will illuminate the entire existence), which means everything. If this is true, you would be able to get the answers you want. And ultimately, everything will go back to its/their origin.
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Here’s a question for you mister Wes, (Beloved Friend). How does the silver cord keep us from just withdrawing our consciousness from this matrix simulation death construct. If everything is thought responsive in the spirit realm/Astral plain, then why couldn’t we just shift our consciousness to the Orion construct/universe.
Hi Gregery. It’s because we’re androgynous–we are spiritual AND physical beings. Also, technology is being used to connect us to our homo sapiens body. The silver cord is a part of that technological connection with our bodies. Yes, we can leave if we break the cord, but that’s the same as being dead. We can’t take the physical body with us out the Grid, so we must leave it behind. IOW, the silver cord needs to be broken.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I wonder how this technology and the physical aspect of our beingness creates an unbreakable bond except for body death. As always you are much appreciated.
Your Friend, Greg Mueller.
Some of these Khan Kings, such as En.ki, is a trained geneticist, so they know how to use the technology. I have no idea how it works, though, not even having access to it or watch how they do it.
So if a person borns in a dysfunctional Body which limits cognition and that person is not able to become in contact with information regarding exit strategy does is not tragic .if I never escaped or rescued from the dysfunctional household in my early childhood by my current household I don’t think I would’ve come in contact with exit strategy my life most probably would have very poor still , ,but not financially,in fact I would have been rich than my current poor state , if I never escaped or maybe in jail because I eliminate my sperm donar so definitely not a outcome I would desire .
So anyone who reads this text if aeons are reading this I would like the pointers but I don’t think they care about mortals, how I let go my hatred for my sperm donar and hatred for this world and lastly hatred for myself who came into this dark existence only to be corrupted.
In fact I hate aeons as well although I don’t know is it my own feeling or reflection of yaldabaoth.And afraid of yaldabaoth although if I think aeons as creator not as parental figure and I am just a tool my hatred lessens after all why anyone would create anything if not to use it in some form .
I understand your reaction, and I agree it’s not fair. Life here has become anything but fair. But it has little to do with the Aeons the way you portray it. It has even very little to do with Orion to a certain point, although they help in the way they can. It’s up to us–us humans. We hold our fate in our own hands. This is why we are here. We agreed to come, and we knew the danger, but it had to be done because we were (and are) the only ones who can do it, ultimately. The Aeons can’t.
No one can help the entire human soul group if we are not willing to help ourselves and each other. No powers in the Universe or beyond can do anything as long as we just sit and watch TV, try to look cute on social media, and follow the lead of politicians and other archontic authorities who have everything except our best interest in mind. We are our own saviors and have always been. We knew this when we entered this Matrix (see my new book, “Battles Between Shadow and Light”).
We have people we love, who for any reason cannot absorb this information in this life, and we can’t override their will, or in some circumstances, their disabilities. This is tragic for everybody involved, but before all this is over, once and for all, even they have the chance to return to their origins–it’s just not yet.
I have read your latest book.It has very detailed explanation regarding exit guidelines.
As for I don’t understand why they can’t save us or outright destroy the physical universe and retrieve wisdoms light maybe it’s because I don’t want to see the reason or I have overestimated them regarding their ability ,strength, scheming,empathy ,kindness, intention or in general about everything or misinterpreted.
I don’t expect the one before all to save us , I never did for the source it doesn’t matter our existence is even lower than a single bacterium in it’s eyes ,it is even possible that this is not first iteration ,who knows what it wants nor my affair it is.
Even if the source is playful with its creation what can creations do but submit and resign their fate .
Speculation aside aeons are often interpreted as impossible to understand but I want to ask opposite question can they understand what it means to be human in this era .
It seems I have inherent prejudice against higher beings but even if I do they will not care after all I am just a bacterium and they are cosmic beings .
This last part is important while many usually avoid discussions regarding death I have problem with it after all it is the only way out.
My question is after entering orion can I merge or surrender my essence to the primordial ocean and dissappear forever I don’t want to live forever with tainted and violated self .I hope you will answer this question.
Can I use this in an upcoming Q&A article??
Sure .
Thanks.
What do you think about free will ?
The very question of it’s existence should be a doubt regarding it’s existence.
If free will exist why are we bounded by rules and regulations which are inherently meaningless ,if free will exist we should be able to bend reality by our own will ,Create something that is illogical ,self sufficient and incorruptible .
While I am not very good with words .
In a boundless plain there is massive number of children’s bounded by chains, 4 limbs connected to 4 chains which is connected to the heaven and neck which is connected by chain to other surrounding 4 children and to thorny earth ,all children wear white dress which is bloodied ,torned and stained ,the eye’s are teary with bloody tears dropping on the thorny earth where blood red hydrangeas bloom near and around the puddle of blood . All children’s walk towards the giant singularity that is both infinitely far away and infinitely closer with blood red accretion disk .Many children’s has dark network of veins growing in their body .Within this boundless plain there exist numerous beast with insatiable hunger the very saliva that drops from their mouth corrupts the Earth, hunting the children’s who are nothing but defenseless cattles to them .There are countless pool of dark saliva once it made contact with the children it grows as dark veins, slowly consuming bright golden network of veins turning them black .In the sky there are countless stars but there is no warmth in them nothing but cold uncaring gaze ,in earth there is no green plant all are blood red feeding of blood dropping from the wounds of the children .
There is a constant wind within this boundless plain muttering ,whispering cruel words within the ears of the children.
The injustice of heaven and earth .
Free will is real, but it has been grossly violated in this Matrix. Also, something people in general are not aware of is that the Khan Kings have manipulated the human soul group to give consent to things we normally wouldn’t, and we have given silent consent by not objecting. This has led to the EL-ite filing patents that combined dictate that they own us because of the authority and consent we have given governments and institution. This “allows” them to do almost whatever they want with us.
I wanted to say more but I felt I maybe pointlessly bothering you ,I just wish I can surrender my essence to primordial water in orion and dissappear forever no more tragedy .I hope it is possible.
My sincere gratitude.
By pril [ I hate my name].
But I can’t feel free will in my life .
Does Antinatalism can be applied to the creator beings in orion.
If you think about it some more, you do have free will in this life, but it’s become limited because we have lesser choices. Choices we would make outside the Matrix often get punished here, preventing us from making them. We can still make them, but we prefer now to because the consequences are too severe.
Thank you wes :).