Q&A Session #3, 2025

By Wes Penre, January 18, 2025

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Here is this week’s session:

Question #1:  In a previous Q&A, you mentioned setting a Pure Intention.  What do you mean by pure intention?

Comment: A “pure intention” is an intention that comprises a focused thought about what it is you want, e.g., “I want the perfect partner for me” is a clear intention; there is nothing else added to it than what you want. “I want the perfect partner for me (if possible)” is not a clear intention because there is already doubt in that thought, which is whether you can actually find such a partner. It’s mind over matter that matters (pun intended).

Another important thing is that after setting the first clear intention, make sure you don’t contradict that intention afterward, such as, “The intention probably won’t work,” because then that will be your “clear intention,” canceling out the original one. If you find yourself counter-intending, reset the first clear intention by repeating, which ten cancels out the negative intention. Continue doing that when/if you feel in doubt regarding your intention.

Question #2: All the reports of the Phoenix Project, the Montauk Project, the Pegasus Project, the Dogon, and various accounts from native Americans, who all had encounters with other beings and with other timelines, something interdimensional, “beyond”… Are you sure that indeed we are totally on a prison planet and what they all experienced is only from inside this third construct? Are we really this caged, and neither with advanced tech nor advanced consciousness traveling (nanotravel) can we cope with it?

Comment: Anything and everything I have found during all the years of research tells me that we are on a so-called prison planet. It’s a simulation, a bad copy of the real expanding Cosmos. It’s our sapiens body that is the ultimate simulation, and it is our brain that decodes the information the Sirians are projecting using technology. That reduces our perceptions to five senses, which is minuscule compared to the entirety of existence. When we increase our consciousness, we also ignite more of our “junk” DNA, and we will perceive more than the 4-5% Matrix reality we are programmed to experience.

This is obvious if you consider dreams, OBEs, and NDEs. They all occur outside the body, limited to the five senses of reality we live in daily, following the Sirian programming. When out of the body, we have already expanded our perceptions and awareness, and we no longer communicate with words but in “thought packages” (thought concepts). During an OBE or NDE, we nano-travel instantly with our thoughts and intentions from one location to another. Therefore, time in the astral is irrelevant and not perceived as here. A year on Earth is not a year in the astral. Linear time, as we know it, only exists on Earth since we’ve been programmed to think in those terms.

So why can’t we leave the Matrix and go to Orion when we have an OBE? We can exit only if we leave our physical sapiens body behind (i.e., the body needs to die). We can’t take a Matrix body into Orion. The body can’t exit through the Grid. Since you’re not dead when you have an OBE or NDE, you can’t pass through the Grid. Also, only a small fraction of humankind knows what the Grid is and that it’s the way out. Even if they see it, they avoid it because it is bioelectrical and appears dangerous with enormous energy, so they will probably avoid it with all their might. They don’t know they must look for holes in this massive Grid to exit the Matrix, in which the astral is just an intermediary between Earth life and Orion.

What people experience in the astral is just more of the Matrix. There are dimensions and densities in the astral, too, where projections, thought forms and simulated “realities exist. The astral usually appears just as real as life on Earth and, to some degree, is just as physical, if not more so, because colors, for example, are often crisper than here.

Question #3: So, we are inside the planet, as the cosmic water is a harsh environment; the sky we see up is only a projection using LERM technology,[1] telescopes can just perceive these simulated-distant objects, trying to make deductions from the ”fake sky” of what we labeled ”space.” In these terms, everything we think we know about ”space” could be totally wrong, right?

Comment: Most of it is wrong if we use NASA’s information. It’s not that the galaxies, stars, and planets do not exist—they do—but they are not what NASA tells us they are. The solar system is in the VOID, which is the Kenoma in the Nag Hammadi Gnostic texts, but the constellations and all the rest of what we see in the night sky and through telescopes all exist in Orion, and not in the Kenoma we currently live in. Although we all are fascinated by the seemingly endless asterisms and galaxies, we still only see 4% of what is “out there.” Since everything in the Matrix is inverted, we should not look through telescopes if we want to behold Orion. We should look in the nanoworld, i.e., through extremely sensitive microscopes. That’s where the real universe is. It’s in the quantum and subquantum realms.

As soon as we leave our sapiens bodies behind, we are in the nanoworld, often without realizing it. When going through the Grid, we can access the entire Nanoverse, i.e., Orion, unless we restrain ourselves and refuse to experience the entirety of things.[2]  

Question #4: [Have you heard] something more about the expired LPG-C? Do you know any other scientific material, such as the LPG-C, worth studying?

Comment: The LPG-C had a Facebook page for invited members only until recently, but when I searched for it today, I could no longer find it. I have not been in touch with them since Dr. A.R. Bordon died.

I can’t refer to any other physics group either because I am not that into physics anymore. I consider much of it flawed because it concentrates on the Matrix only—even the LPG-C was researching things from a Matrix perspective, unwittingly being in contact with Sirians only, not Orions.

These days, I spend most of my time looking inward rather than outward. We find the more profound answers inside ourselves by connecting with the Spirit that is ultimately us. I still do research, of course, but mostly to confirm or disregard what comes through me as a stream of consciousness. So, it’s the other way around for me: what runs through me as a stream of consciousness is senior to what I can learn in the outside world in the form of Matrix information. It’s an inevitable step to take for any truth seeker when they know the time is right for it.

Question #5: Have you learned something more about this possible help from Orion?

Comment: I have not been in touch with anybody from Orion since shortly after the Wes Penre Papers were published in 2015-16. However, I understand they have representatives around. Orion is closely monitoring what is happening here—they would never give up on that. It’s in their absolute best interest that things get resolved here. They would, obviously, not tell me or any other humans about their plans, or it would spoil their efforts since Marduk and his clan are “listening.”

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[1] This is an LPG-C term and a part of the “Orion technology” the Sirian Khan Kings (Archons) use. See my book, “The Wes Penre Papers: The First Level of Learning, Part 1.”

[2] To learn about exiting through the Grid, see my article on how to do it, and check out a booklet by my friend, Guy Urata here.

9 comments

  1. A thought experiment if the spectator is considered what that is truly traped in samsara,
    Self, part of the spectator that is traped in mortal existence, which ultimately anchors the spectator in mortal world/ universe.

    Self which is merged or binded or measured or perceived through the lenses of mortal experience memory,thought, emotion,desire,need,want,lust,mood,biologic-al perception modifiers emerged from interaction of mortal world and mortal flawed instrument, now the self that is born is also mortal defined by mortal experience.

    Self atleast what I think in my case and if the spectator is anchored in multiple bodies then Self is also mortal,I.e I don’t exactly have past life,it is the spectator and in a sense I will die as well after this life ,unless the definition of self can be redefined.
    I don’t want to lose self but if I want to be immortal a conceptual immortality I need to redefine self.
    In most cases if I could disect mental spheres of others a conceptual disection a self can be divided into SELF and biological mind .

    Having SA can be helpful to redefine self and to determine we are not simply product of our mortal life but a self can be self referential as well.self is mortal,impermanent as we lose memory or rather the spectator loses it and I have answer self is definitely mortal atleast when referenced through mortal life .

    If my self can be disected it will be [Self ] a separation from everything especially from biological mind ,a mind that works on its own a kind of narrative field weaving stories feeding self that has SA and aware that SA of itself thus referencing itself as having SA rather than having mortal life experiences.
    While not denying the effect of mortal life on self the part that say my experience defines me yes that part exist but is linked to biological mind ,brain or soul I don’t know what soul is and it’s function other than imprisoning spectator.

    As you have said before wes it maybe possible to let go the yaldabaoth’s indoctrination to our self ,by redefining self of course it is what that is traped mortal world.

    It would also leads to a fascinating concept that was explored in earlier times in WPP, having multiple life’s and the oversoul,the spirit or higher self.

    If self is defined by mortal experiences even if it is not that act of being anchored to mortal body will cause creation of self that sees world and separate it from the world and from the spectator thus creating unique self and thus multiple self of the same spectator across time domain,or space domain or both simultaneously multiple selfs
    ,it can also be explained why even if I was murderer in past iteration I in this could be allowed entry in orion because that self is death ,although it doesn’t mean the things done are meaningless and are not for contemplation.

    It could also mean humans without the spectator although the creation of meta self will be possible or not I don’t know.
    If they can create spectator as evolution process but to maintain the concept of spectator they will require form within which concept will sort of manifested .maybe a soul made of fire,water,ice,wood,darkness,light or ether it self .a concept form continuity to support the spectators construction .but does universe allow evolution as natural phenomena or it actively sees all self as things to imprison and do it’s bidding.

    It can be seen as both release and desire to have immortal existence but immortal slave is slave none the less.

    Yet knowing self to this degree is not sufficient to exit samsara well the information provided does, maybe self knowing has limit ,of course a concept form continuity can allow a being or a self to escape by literally conceptualizing erasing blast than manifesting it through the phenomena of concept form continuity which I don’t have and dematerializing the Earth itself .
    Concept form continuity is another concept of creation or rather another name .I can think a gem that contains endless water and by applying the concept form continuity I can manifest it well this example differs from using spirit to create after all concept form continuity can be considered a fictional or fantasy type or fantasy version of creation ,creating out of literally nothing by robing it from primordial non existence itself .
    Well creation itself is good ability but using spirit means we are borrowing something probably from someone like Sophia,if I conceptualize her through my mortal self aka biological mind or false self I do feel affection towards her but that I is not I two different I and I m better than that I if I m arrogant by saying that than I am . Biological mind is simply inferior and spits on my soul [ metaphorically] it is binding it is not good to feel lust,it is not good to feel anger and many other thing.

    Yet I can see tricks of fate my eternal enemy my mortal experience has caused the self to fragment into two pieces one that desires transcendence one that is drown in mortal life or triple if I consider the spectator .

    One has lost all attachment ,one is drown,one is stuck maybe all of them will die.yet the desire to have omnipotence over oneself is everpresent to rewrite, redefine self at will ,to have everything I desire yet harming no one without drinking the dreams of other selfs, to defy logic,to burn strings of fate to achieve absolute freedom so absolute free from anything and everything be my creator,and the source of all ,the self,logic ,desire,omnipotence and anything that exist.

    One thing I m sure I definitely has anterior of existence the state of non existence from which I was draged by my creators to live as slave,slave of destiny, desire,identity, need,dream everything I can name and feel is prison yet I don’t know how to escape to escape to return.

    There was a movie called infinity war where villain said reality is often disappointing and it is truth.

    At last SA has limit, I m happy atleast the instrument of suffering has time limit.

    A fragmented self hmm no it is not that simple.

  2. Wes can you explain spirit/soul/mind/body again i was contemplating something .and I need some references, my sincere gratitude

    1. Hi Path Strider. I think that’s a question more people would benefit from. Please submit that question exactly the way you put it here in the comment at wespenre2@gmai.com, and I will include it in the next Q&A.

      Title the email “Q&A.”

  3. What is the difference between Orion and the void ! doesn’t Orion existe in the void/ zero point energy which is the basis of everything around us ?
    If I found myself out of this planet grid into the Void can I go to Orion or any other solar system or galaxy and meet other entities like lyrians sirians or any positive ones ?

  4. For people who practice soul travel in the lower or higher astral 4th Dimension or in 5D or 6D,7D can we see the holes in the grid and go through it from these Dimensions after death ?

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