Q&A Session #11, 2025

By Wes Penre, March 29, 2025

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Please note! Suppose the question(s) you submit is/are omitted. In that case, it’s usually for two reasons: I couldn’t include all questions that week, so keep an eye open for one of the following Q&As, or for some reason, the question(s) did not fit the hallmark for a Q&A—perhaps too broad or complex to answer in this format. It’s never because I think a question is “stupid.”

Unfortunately, I don’t have time to watch videos that people sometimes send me as part of the question. Instead, take the part of the video the question relates to and write that into the question. Also, please don’t send websites or long PDF files I do not have time to read. When I receive these attachments and links, I must automatically disregard these questions unless I can comment on them without having to attend to the attachments.

Question #1: I have read most of your books, and the burning question for me is, who is really the good guy – Enki or Enlil?

From the Emerald Green Tablets and other researchers I have encountered over the years, it is Enlil who is said to have wanted to eliminate humanity, not Enki. I haven’t found anybody else out there who claims the Enlil was the ‘good guy… If this is what you have been ‘told’ or is simply your ‘belief’, I can accept that. I ask this with great respect. Could you clarify this?

Billy Carson is one of the individuals who makes this claim based off his research. He has written books too- I am sure you are aware…

Comment: As humans living in a dualistic universe, we often think of things in absolutes: black and white, yin and yang, good and evil. We think of them as separate from each other, as “either or.” That is never the case, and neither is it with En.ki and En.lil. Everything is “gray.”

We must remember that we are in the midst of a cosmic war that’s been ongoing for millions of years from our perspective. It’s a war where the primary focus is on the human soul group—the Spirited Human. There are two essential sides in this war: Orion, working together with the Spirit Realm, and the Kenoma, which is the lower physical/material realm where we live.

Two major characters relevant to us are En.lil and En.ki. As we know from the WPP, they have different agendas. Both of them must succeed with theirs, respectively. Since the war has been persistent, both sides must inevitably have “skeletons in their closets,” so to speak. Furthermore, the two characters have distinct personalities.

From what I’ve concluded, En.ki is more mild-tempered but also a trickster, while En.lil is more hot-headed and also a warrior, serving as Second in Command of the MIKH-MAKH NEKH army in Orion. If we read the Sumerian texts, for example, we can see that En.lil is more hot-headed. This doesn’t make him “evil,” however. As I mentioned, both have their agendas with mankind, mostly based on DNA (see my book, “The Story of Isis and the War on Bloodlines”), so whom do we benefit from learning from?

My answer is both. My Contact opened up an entirely new world and cosmic view for me with our discussions over 5+ years, resulting in the WPP. After all these years, that information has still not grown old. Quite the opposite! Reviewing the information now and then makes me see even more layers that are crucial to understand, things I did not fully understand ten years ago. That’s also the reason I wrote the two Orion books and the subsequent ones. It’s impossible not to get more and more spiritual insights from the WPP.  I can’t question the concept of the Wes Penre Papers because they are the only thing that makes sense, telling a bigger picture than anything else I’ve encountered. You guys find them for free at https://wespenre.com, if someone didn’t know.

I’m rambling here, so let’s get to the point. En.lil as Ninurta created the physical bodies I call the Namlú’u in the WPP, a term borrowed from the French author Anton Parks. A more accurate term would be the Aryans (the Orions). En.lil collaborated with the Spirit Realm—more specifically, his mother, Pistis Sophia, as manifested in the Gnostic texts, who appeared in the physical realm as Zoë Sophia, the Orion Queen.

We humans descended from the Spirit Realm into the Aryan bodies, and that was the beginning of the Human Experiment. The WPP tells you what happened next and how we descended into the physical realm’s depths when the Sirians (also known as Archons in the Gnostic texts) hijacked our consciousness. It was En.ki who created homo sapiens as a “bad copy” of the Aryans, and it was he and his “son,” Marduk, who isolated the construct we now call the Matrix (Patrix would be a better word, since the Matrix is patriarchal, not matriarchal). Here, they gave us amnesia, and Marduk’s team, in particular, has manipulated us since at least 4,000 years ago when he took over and became the “Master of Reality,” as the metal band Black Sabbath called him. He is Satan or the “Lord of this World.” This is a realm of death and rebirth, over and over, and if there is a Hell, I think this will do, as the saying goes.

En.lil, on the other hand, wants us out of here; he wants to release mankind since it was not meant to go this way. He wants us back in Orion.

This comment became almost an essay, but with all this in mind, each person must make a choice: head for Orion (going through the Grid) or stay here in En.ki’s and Marduk’s realm and reincarnate again, very likely becoming part of the Singularity’s hive mind. Everybody must make this choice without exceptions. What we choose is our individual decision.

It was not Prince En.lil who instigated Noah’s Flood—it was Khan En.lil. Prince En.lil is the being who created the original humankind, not Khan En.lil. I know people are upset about the Deluge, but because I understand things better now. I am not upset anymore. I understand their thinking process. However absurd it might sound, the question is: Could it have been an attempt to save us rather than destroy us?

Question #2: Does the expansion of the material Universe exist? Remember The Big Bang Theory?

Or does what really exist is the expansion of consciousness?

I think that it is all mental. And only a real Spirit could create and expand a territory. But that territory is obviously mental. It is an idea.

Comment: Yes! The Greater Universe (Orion) is constantly expanding. The Big Bang theory is not without merit, as Pistis Sophia created the physical universe from her Divine Mind. Some have compared it to a cosmic orgasm, and I think it works as a metaphor. Physicists believe the expansion is a continuous movement outward that has never stopped since the Big Bang, but this expansion occurs because of creation, as you suggested. Orion has its creator gods, who continually create new worlds, thereby expanding the overall universe. And yes, creation always starts with the mind, which is the feminine aspect. The manifestation is the masculine.

Question #3: I don’t understand you. You claim human soul-minds are neither explicitly male nor female, yet you refuse the idea that some humans may feel they’re born as the wrong sex. You say they’re “brainwashed” when this phenomenon has existed throughout human history. How could you have such a linear view of gender identity when the human mind is such a complex thing? I genuinely want to know your reasoning.

Comment: First, I never stated any of the claims you mention in your question. They are based on a fundamental misunderstanding.

What I have said is that the entire transexual movement that is so prominent right now is an orchestrated agenda, including agent provocateurs (look that term up in Wikipedia) and other front people, put there by the EL-ite to provoke people, distract them, and confuse the fundamental gender agreement. It is narcissistic gaslighting at its best, originating from the “authorities.”

It was not the transsexual people who started the pronoun nonsense; that was the EL-ite. I never had anything against transgenders, and I still don’t. It’s an experience some people want to have, and they have free will (or should have) to be whomever they want, so long as they don’t harm others. This vicious agenda has teachers preaching to pre-adolescent children in schools that they can change their sex if they want. The purpose is to have children undergo operations to change their gender. To me, that’s infuriating. I don’t care about politics in general since it’s all staged and corrupt, but I do support President Trump’s statement that from now on, there are only two genders: male and female. How then do transgenders fit into the picture? Well, it’s straightforward: if the person was born male and undergoes surgery to become female, they are a person who started as male and now wants to be addressed as Mary rather than John and takes hormones to maintain their new identity. That’s fine with me. There’s no more to it. He changes his ID from John to Mary or vice versa. That’s the end of the story.  

This short-video is an excellent example of what I’m saying. Kudos to the police officer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrE6_dbnAjg

In virtually all my books and the WPP, I have stressed the difference between genders and the feminine/masculine principles. They are two entirely different things. When I talk about feminine and masculine, it has nothing to do with sexes—that’s an archontic creation and only applies here on Earth—nowhere else, me be-known. The feminine/masculine principle is related to creation. Whether you’re a man or a woman, you’re essentially androgynous as a being: You have both feminine and masculine characteristics inside you (not talking about genders). The feminine principle is your Mind. That’s where creation begins. Thus, the Feminine Universe. The masculine principle represents outward motion, i.e., the manifestation of what you first created in your mind. This is the difference between the creative principles and genders. I would say you could probably find this information by picking up any of my books or just reviewing the WPP.

Question #4: Wes, suppose I am on a plane with coworkers, and it is about to crash fatally.  People are scared, of course.  I am too with the chaos, but through your research, I know what to do when I pass. 

Out of mercy and concern for others, I share about escaping through a hole in the grid.  Suppose upon passing, others use that information to escape the false light and go through a hole in the grid into Orion. 

Now, further suppose, one of those people is really a bad person — let’s say they’re a full-on child molester who hasn’t been caught yet.  What would happen to a person like this?  Would he just be wrong vibrationally for Orion and just be dumped back to Earth?  Or would someone like that be put in rehabilitation until they are better?

Comment: If I were in that plane crash, I would not tell people to go through the Grid. That might sound harsh to some, but there is a reason for it. I don’t know anyone on that plane, and as you wrote, some might be rapists and child molesters from all I know. You can’t save anybody; that’s something each individual must do themselves. It’s hard work. You are familiar with my work, which means you’ve spent time contemplating and drawing insights, etc. And at some point, you chose to go through the Grid.

Back to the hypothetical incident: I presume I would be the only one on that plane who even heard about the Grid. I can’t save anybody. They must be prepared first, and that takes time and much self-reflection.

But let’s say I did tell people, and some bad apples went through the Grid. That would be my responsibility to some degree, sending criminals to Orion—something that would most likely be addressed when I stand before Orion’s Gate. The criminal I sent to them, I’m sure, would not be allowed into Orion in their current state, and yes, they would be sent back since there is no other alternative. All the star constellations, etc., are in Orion, not in our “dead” universe. Therefore, the person has no choice but to return to the Matrix and keep working on themselves.  

Question #5: Since you draw some cues from the Gnostic Scriptures in your research, I am wondering how to address a possible contradiction (or perhaps it may not exist after all) between the WPP and the old scrolls. The latter state that escaping the Matrix/Patrix is only possible through an Alchemical Process: the rebirth or re-emergence of the original soul fire “through water and spirit.” I have no clue what that means or how to accomplish it. So, could there be a catch or a final secret ingredient that I need to know (and which you may not be aware of) in order to make it work?  I’d be thankful to get your take on that.

Comment: This is an excellent question. You sent me two more questions, and I’ll see if I can address them in upcoming Q&As.

The Christian Gnostic texts (found in the Nag Hammadi library) build upon much older wisdom that can be traced to the Spirit Realm. However, these texts must be read with caution, as they have been inverted to direct our energies toward a masculine God. Although the Gnostics consider YHVH to be the Demiurge (Yaldabaoth), which is largely correct, Marduk is the “bad Sabaoth,” in contrast to the “good Sabaoth” (who is Ninurta). Marduk hijacked the feminine Gnosis we originally were meant to receive and elevated himself to Jesus, and his father, Yaldabaoth, became God. So, there is no salvation there unless we invert Christian Gnosticism and present it from a feminine perspective. When we do, an excellent extended cosmic view opens up.

When the Nag Hammadi texts were written by human scribes and dictated by the Archons, as was customary, there were no holes in the Grid. The only way out was to ascend the same route we descended, i.e., up through the Seven Heavens—each Heaven representing a celestial body and its sphere (see my book, “Battles Between Shadow and Light”).  The idea was that if we ascend upward, opposed to our previous descension, we would be free because we had received Gnosis (Knowledge) through Gnosticism. I don’t see that as possible since Gnosticism presents a patriarchal view of the world and cosmos.

Therefore, I see it as extremely fortunate that we have the information we have today. We have a proper exit plan that was not even possible 2,000 years ago, around the time the Gnostic texts were written.

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