Article #5: Who is Hidden Hand?

by Wes Penre, March 9, 2019

In 2008, a character who called himself “Hidden Hand” appeared on the “Above Top Secret” forum (ATS). At the time, I found his information quite interesting, although I realized that this individual was not completely trustworthy when it comes to genuinely helping us out. However, I found it enlightening enough to accumulate the information and put it into an article, which I posted on my website, Illuminati News. You can still find the article there:

This character, for those who are familiar with the ATS thread, claimed to be an Illuminati Insider of an Illuminati bloodline, descending directly from Lucifer. He was, at that particular time, appointed to release some “true information” about the Bigger Picture. The article I created became incredibly popular, and still is to this day. Indeed, it’s one of the most popular articles I ever posted on the Illuminati News website.

Hidden Hand showed up one day on ATS, telling people to start asking him questions. He promised to answer them, if they had some relevance to our spiritual growth or would help us understand this Matrix better. He also said that he would be available for a certain number of days, and then he would leave the forum.

The Q&A between him and ATS members mainly circled around the Global Elite, aliens, and humankind’s spiritual development, such as ascension to the 4th and 5th Density.

Now, exactly ten years later, a person appears on the “Godlike Productions” forum (GLP). He goes by the username Eracidni Murev Te (which is not his real name), and he started a thread yesterday, on December 7, 2018, telling people to ask him questions. You will find the thread here:

When Ariel Glad and I looked into this new thread, we almost immediately recognized the similarities with Hidden Hand. A bit into the thread, someone asked if he is Hidden Hand, and the replied that he isn’t, and that the original Hidden Hand is no longer incarnated here. However, this new person, claiming to be human, just like Hidden Hand, also claims to be of the same bloodline and soul group as Hidden Hand. He is telling us that in certain intervals, a member of this bloodline is appointed to come out in public, giving us the opportunity to ask questions.

According to Hidden Hand and the new messenger, members of this Illuminati bloodline are direct descendants of Lucifer, who of course is They also believe that their Oversoul is Venus! Venus, as many people know, is the “Morning Star,” which is equivalent to Lucifer—his feminine aspect. Venus is also sometimes referred to as Isis, in this case seen as Lucifer’s counterpart. The entire task for certain members of this bloodline is to prepare themselves so they can educate humankind—or to educate those who have “ears to hear.” One way for them to do this is to study a large number of hidden texts—many of them apparently not in public domain—and learn them by heart. The Emerald Tablets of Thoth is one of them– one that Eracidni recommends. Another source that both he and Hidden Hand recommend is the “Ra Material” (”Law of One”) book series. We find this very interesting, and I will explain why later in this article.

Are Hidden Hand and Eracidni for real? Are they really who they say they are? Ariel and I believe so, and that’s for a reason. If you have watched our 3-part YouTube video series called, “The Orion Family Feud,” you know that is the one who wants to educate humankind, while Marduk wants us to de-evolve into his Singularity Agenda. We can exclude that these two messengers are of Marduk’s clan because he is not interested in educating us. However, is! Reading Hidden Hand’s and Eracidni’s material is eye-opening, if we want to know how’s faction of the Alien Invader Force (AIF) operates. Just like Thoth,’s son, has incarnated on Earth several times in order to educate us, so are these bloodline messengers here to educate us—they are particularly assigned and born for this mission. And on what platforms would be better to do that than on the most popular forums on the Internet, where truth-seekers often go to look for information?

Both Hidden Hand and Eracidni are giving us information that will lead us right into the arms of Nowhere are they talking about an exit. On the contrary, they say that we are here because somewhere deep inside our souls we want to be here. In other words, they are luring us into staying within the Matrix and accepting Lucifer as God. These messengers are trying to steer as many of us awakening humans to instead of to Marduk—they never give us the third option, which is to exit the Grid.

Moreover, both Hidden Hand and Eracidni are promoting an “Event,” i.e. a Harvest, which is a transition in densities. This is remarkable because it coincides with all the information we’ve received lately about the Event/Events that are supposed to happen in the near future. This clearly indicates that all the Events we are hearing about is a part of’s agenda.

Interesting also is that they both promote the Ra Material. This proves beyond reasonable doubt that the Ra Material comes from Personally, I believe the beings Carla Rueckert channeled were AI because of the way they communicated. Their messages were completely void of emotions, and their way of expressing themselves has always reminded me of a “robot.” I believe that just like Hidden Hand and Eracidni have learned what they know from studying tons of ancient texts and secret material, the RA “people” were programmed artificial intelligence, but on a much more advanced level than we are used to when we discuss AI.

Ariel and I encourage you to read the Hidden Hand material and the new information in the ongoing thread with Eracidni on GLP if you are interested in this topic. Although we now know who they are, and their motives, we still learn from it. The information contains information that we can use, but also, we learn more about how and his team are trying to set up humankind, so that we willingly choose him as the Father, rather than the Queen as our Mother, or Marduk as the alternative.

On the surface, it might seem like the first Hidden Hand from 2008 is on Marduk’s team and the new Hidden Hand is on’s team. This is more or less what the new Hidden Hand is suggesting, but is that really true? Or is it the same source creating the usual polarity that is always needed in this Matrix?

See Article #6: “The New Hidden Hand” for a compilation of the GLP thread.


  1. I see no difference between the singularity and the ascension. Both plans are complementary of one another instead of competing contradictions as may seem the case upon first glance.
    When dealing with multiple re-alities, from the con-troll-ers perpective: it would be best to have several plans in place to support the agenda.

  2. EMT:
    Archons and soul traps are not real. They are archetypes embedded in our minds by those who wish to instill in us fear. They have only the power you give to them willingly.

    –ok that was weird!!!


    EMT: Many call him Yahweh. His ideal laws are those of forced utopia, moral living, and worship. However, all of these are incongruent with Fundamental Law.

    –ya, its different parts or portions of the same personality probably. These counterparts appear to be striving for some kind of elusive balance to an unequaled equasion.

    Maybe thats why enki appears to always be half assing everything. He has to improvise because we always change our minds or the values to his variables in the formula.

    1. Yes, we need to take Hidden Hand’s info with a pinch of salt. Not because I think he’s lying, but he only conveys what HE has learned from HIS teachers within the secret societies. He’s groomed to be a spokesperson for them, so he only knows what he’s been learned, and he believes in it. So, we need to use our discernment. There are nuggets in there together with falsehood.

      1. Thank you 🙂 Not sure if I’ve noticed anything wrong with your English, though…Which country are you from, if you don’t mind, of course…?

        1. I do not mind. I was born in Romania – a very small south east european country : Balkans. I enjoy reading your comments. Today you made my day( I smiled and even laugh a lot)! And this means something. Thank you!

        2. “half assing everything ” was the cause of my afternoon joy. (LOL).It is a very man talk…in my opinion.I would say that no woman ever talk like “that” .

  3. Hey you guys,
    Arcturus was mentioned here as well. HH says they are small beings descended from horses. The wpp has them pegged as the bird tribe or nommos the dogan tribe of west africa calls them.
    Not that species matters, but do you think HH is refrencing the star beings who split from khan enlil to join lucefers rebellion?

    Interesting side note: west african folk tales that eventually were recorded
    speak of their first king. He was a tribal leader who defeated a terrible tyrant. The peoples oppressor was a half-manfish with magical powers. The king killed the fishman and freef his people.
    –how many times do you think enki or the aif have been run out of town? Seems to happan to him a lot.

    1. Hidden Hand tells us what he’s been told to tell us. Some of it is correct and some of it not–and he might not even know the difference. They groom certain members to do the job to “inform” the public. Discernment is really an important matter in this case. Regarding the star beings…Arcturus has most probably more than one star race inhabiting that solar system, so who knows?

  4. Anamaria:
    How kind of you to say! I disagree about your women talking like “that” comment though. The very best trash-talkers and insult-artists are always chicks.
    My momma used to say after some blow-hard was done speaking: “well finally, the last blast of gas has passed through the ass”

  5. So ahhh hey, how that lord of the rings/wpp comparison article idea coming alone?
    -cant let you forget, i really want to read it!!!
    Did some research on the Mayan civilization. They believed time was circular and that they were living in the forth version of this world. Isnt L. O. R set in the forth age of middle earth?? Weird.
    This makes me wonder if plato’s atlantis and the flood was the end of our third age in the patrix cycle with “the new atlantis” our our current 4th age coming to a close now. Look out singularity and 5d huh!??
    But what of epoch’s 1 & 2 after the destruction of tiamaat?
    I recall something written in the wpp about these prospective eras. Were not the aif and orion on the planet at the same time after the wars of the titans?
    Was the grid set up after the third epoch and the flood?
    Sorry for so many questions, i thirst to know!!! Thx

    1. @Last Lion I haven’t started it yet. It will take some time to create such an article (or video…I haven’t decided).

      LOTH was set in the Third Age, and when Aragorn became King of Gondor, the Fourth Age started. The last Elves left and the 4th Age became the Age of Man. Tolkien admitted to, in an interview, that the Fall of Numenor, when it sank under the ocean, was equivalent to the Fall of Atlantis. That was the end of the Second Age. A big chunk of Middle Earth (the western part) also sank under the ocean, as was told in The Silmarillion. After that, the 3rd Age began.

      The “ages” we know of in reality would be, as I currently see it: 1st Age = Tiamaat. 2nd Age = the creation of Earth, eventually followed by Atlantis up until the Deluge. 3rd Age = from after the Deluge up until now. 4th Age = the Singularity vs. Ascension.

      However, there could be “ages” between the construction of Earth up until the Flood that we currently don’t know anything about. Civilizations have been wiped out and new ones have arisen throughout history. Also, it’s a matter of if we consider Tiamaat being part of these ages or not. It depends on if we are only focusing on Earth or on the entire history of humankind.

      The Grid was set up after the Deluge, and yes–some Orions were here on and off during the Atlantis Era before the Flood…more so at the first part of the Atlantis Era.

      1. I think i get it now. Depends upon when and where and what criteria you want to start labeling the levels of this story.
        I do feel (inside) that there is much of the pre atlantis tale that is lost to memory or eroded by father time.

  6. Mister Penre : when time is right for you : may be you would agree to speak a little bit more about the Firmament ( what exactly means, what are the characteristic of // I understood that this was the way in which the “waters were separated” ) and the differences between Firmament and Grid .
    I understood that this Grid is, in fact, our actual human consciousness ( above is stated that this grid was set after the Deluge. That Grid remained unchanged until recently, right?).
    You mentioned in “Our Origins” video that besides the environment, animals and first Humans … the civilization started its development : First Atlantis. How was that First Atlantis?
    What was the purpose of the Mars Namluú?
    A part for Tiammat and Mars ..where other plantes with similar experiments ( Namluú type?)
    Just some questions. I am aware that we all have our inquiries so I just write down some of mine. It is difficult to answer us all, I know. I just let it here and may be in a near future this questions would be answered.
    Thank you!

    1. @anamaria Yes, we will create a FAQ regarding the Firmament–it’s in the planning. That will also bring up the distinction between firmament and Grid.

      Tiamaat was the first Atlantis. Atlantis refers to water world. The first Atlantis was what ancient texts refers to as the Golden Age. Then, when took over, he tried to mimic the original, so the second Atlantis would be here on Earth before the Flood.

      The Mars Namlu’u had a similar purpose as the Tiamaat Namlu’u. It was just an extension of the Experiment. It also seems like Venus was a part of this, as well, but I can’t say for sure.

  7. “were other planets” – I do some grammar errors but I cannot edit the text like in you tube. A good start to focus more. I do not want to miss my exit(Smiling … in serious way).

    1. That’s okay, anamaria. There is an app to download in WordPress, which we use, where people can edit their posts, but if I install it, they take away the following this blog button, for some reason. Silly, but true, so I couldn’t download it.

  8. And…of course … about DNA and how was it inactivated? That is the correct term? Inactivation? It is still fully there and was just inactivated or it was breakdown? It cannot be fully activated in this body suite, right? Not even by “code lights”? This means that it is not full here in this body suite?… And so one. … Smiling and asking …

  9. Just to have some fun : once…I was very very very good in “doing things”….and look at me now : struggling typing in English (LOL).

  10. I could clearly feel and see that Hidden Hand had shifted its authors in Article 7 about 2/3 way through. It turned from being enlightening and focused to bogus fraud. Anyone else see?

  11. Wes: “Nowhere are they talking about an exit.”

    I don’t think this is true! He made this post which provides instructions, and may change your perspective on them:

    “Q: Regarding light body activation and unorthodox graduation of density, do you have any personal knowledge of this process?
    A: Yes. My last several incarnations all ended in reunification with the Creator. Simply put – lose yourself of the desire to continue along the progression through densities of experience, be grateful for but decline the advice and offerings of those who would have you continue through them at the end of this incarnation, deconstruct any specific value you put on system of density progression, and above all, simply intend in your heart and soul to return and you shall.
    This process is similarly a component of what is necessary to transition between densities of experience at will during an incarnation.”

    1. I must have missed that, for some reason–I have no recall of it. I wonder why he returned here…as we can read in the Gnostic texts, those who return do so in order to help out and become teachers. An interesting perspective on this is what Hidden Hand said back in 2008–that some come here to manifest negativity as a catalyst for those who are waking up. The RA Material also hints at this when they talk about, e.g. Fifth Density Positive and Fifth Density Negative. The RA collective puts equal value to both sides…

      1. @Anonymous The question/answer was posted in the GLP topic that’s linked on this page. It seems Wes’ PDF version is missing some content (I think his last 5 posts).

        There’s actually a few posts addressing how you don’t need to follow the orthodox density progression system. But there’s a lot of information to digest, it may be worth having another read!

        I guess seeing the contrast of the negativity may help us choose to evolve towards a better direction? EMT also points out in this interview that we didn’t move into the negative orientated Earth timeline that the 2008 guy was hoping for, thus the failed predictions.

        If you prefer, I’ve also just finished making my own compilation of his posts here, that includes all of them:

  12. While there is much wisdom in his comments there are some obvious lies. He mentions a cure to cancer will come about though he can’t reveal it. In truth there’s always been cures for cancer–herbal ones that are readily available on most hiking trails or in your back yard (burdock root is most helpful. Look up Essiac Tea ingredients on Louise Hay wrote a great book about how every disease is actually a dis-ease that goes back to forgetting our essential nature as joyful spiritual beings and believing instead what the Ego (the Liar, the Trickster) tells us.

    He states there will be more leisure time and creativity because everything will be automated. Couple of things; why is it good to have everything fully automated? Do not people enjoy creating shelter, clothing, food and so on? Yes, indeed they do! Especially when they can do it themselves and be full participants. It would be nice to create natural houses instead of the compressed board, pink fiberglass shit. Straw bail homes for instance natural, quiet, warm and efficient. As far as more time to be creative (writing music and such I presume), we’ve been told that before in the 50’s. Automation was going to free us up so we could do exactly what he says, instead most of us became slaves to machines.

    Digital currency–another means to separate us from what’s real and enslave us. People will go outside the system and create their own currency or barter. Medicine–people will bypass mainstream medicine and go to the earth or purchase from holistic medicine providers.

    Oh, he says there will be a population decline and no one knows why. Well, we know now don’t we! Clot shots. I don’t know the answers. All I know is change begins within (as he states) and we can imagine a better reality rather than have them or him do it for us. We don’t need him, he, as a predator, needs us.

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