By Wes Penre, June 26, 2026
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Question #1: I often read in your answers and articles that to go through a hole in the grid, we need to “think a thought,” or think, once through, a thought like “I am in Orion now!” But once we leave our body, we don’t think that way anymore. The universal language is vibration. So it’s a “feeling of energy” that matches the message. Is this true, and can you elaborate on that?
Comment: Although vibration is important and makes it possible to experience different dimensions, a soul/spirit in the astral uses thought packages to communicate with each other. It will probably take a while for us humans to feel confident with that, since it requires some practice. To begin with, we will probably send single thoughts instead of entire concepts at once.
How do we know this? Because of astral travelers, who all tell us that this is how we communicate outside our physical bodies.

Question #2: Hi Wes, if you die with another person or a group of people, would the people see each other once leaving the body, or is everyone just alone in their death experience? Was thinking: if people who knew about the grid and its holes could exit together, or help someone go through with them.
Comment: If we die together with someone else, I see no reason we can’t travel together. However, if we die in a catastrophe and many people die at once, it would likely be best to go through the Grid only with those who are aware of the Grid and Orion. There is even a strong chance the rest won’t recognize the Grid. Also, these people are ignorant of Orion and would bring with them tons of attachment to the Matrix and archontic influences. To enter Orion, we must be willing to detach from everything in the Matrix.
This may sound harsh, but if Orion were reasonable about this, they would soon have another Matrix in Orion.

Question #3: Hi Wes, hope all is well with you. You have said in the past, in your writings and such, that a narcissist who was created in childhood pretty much loses their true “Being.” Hope I said that correctly, and adopts what I would call a facade personality. With Gnosis, would that person be able to regain their true being/true self upon the body’s death? Or is that something that would have to be worked upon and gained in the afterlife, if you do choose that path? Thank you.
Comment: Perhaps I should update that information here and now. The way I understand it, there are two major types of narcissists. The first type is the one we are quite familiar with. Such a person was severely traumatized in their childhood—mostly by the mother. Such a narcissist was never allowed to separate from their mother when it was time to do so as a toddler. It was that, and also tremendous abuse from parents or caregivers who were themselves narcissists. Such a person, when growing up, is already so damaged that it’s almost impossible for a true narcissist to heal. Therefore, they will not be interested in leaving the Matrix. If they show interest, it’s usually to manipulate the spiritually inclined person.
The second type of narcissist is what the Gnostics called the Hylics. They are mostly just programs the Archons allow to incarnate here to distract the spirited people. There is no future for such a person, and when they die, they dissolve completely. There is no afterlife whatsoever for a Hylic. Another term for Hylic is NPC (non-player character). Not all Hylics are narcissists, but all Hylics are very material and physical. There is no spirit at all in them—just a program. 3-UCs are relatively few, 2-UCs are more numerous, but Hylics are in the majority among the “human” population.
Question #4: How do you consider the narrative about Tartaria within your work? I can’t see if you ever mentioned it.
Comment: We have discussed Tartaria to some extent on our forum. Although I believe there is truth in at least some of it, I have never had a reason to bring it up in my books or elsewhere.

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