Q&A Session #1, August 7, 2024

By Wes Penre, August 7, 2024

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Welcome to the new Q&A and thank you for your questions! Please send more to wespenre2@gmail.com, and put Q&A in the subject line so I won’t miss your email.

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Here we go:

Question #1: If Princess Diana truly was Isis, does that mean that she is also trapped within this construct, with no recollection of her memories? Or does she just choose to be here?

Comment: It is my current understanding that Isis can leave if she wants to. There was a time she was trapped, for sure, though. She chooses to be here, and I think it is because Orion might have some plans. The only differences between her and us humans are that she has total recall and doesn’t go through the recycling center (the BLA). Otherwise, she is a 3-UC (soul-mind-spirit body), but she is not of the human soul group. Isis was born in “Sirius,” but the higher aspect of her dwells in Orion. Much more about these things in my upcoming book. I have only one chapter left to write, and then it’s the editing process following upon that. It looks like, right now, that it may be published in the beginning of September on Amazon. But, of course, I will announce the launch on all platforms I have.

Question #2: What does lying, stealing, and being violent do to our Spirit? How does this affect us as 3-UC’s, and does it have any effect on 2-UC’s? For example, let’s take a situation where others don’t know that I’m stealing or lying. So, it seems there wouldn’t be any “punishment” from them, so to speak. But deep down, I know I’m doing it. What do you think—how does this affect us, and does it lower our frequency?

How might this affect us as 3-UC’s if we believe we are acting with good intentions, but in doing so, we violate someone else’s free will or clearly expressed wishes? For example, let’s say someone has firmly established rules on how to handle their belongings – material or immaterial, but I decide to do things differently. I don’t ask for their permission and handle their belongings according to what I believe is right because I think I’m doing something good for others. What could be the consequences of such behavior? Does the perceived good deed outweigh the fact that actions are taken against somebody else’s will, even though that somebody doesn’t know about it?

Comment: The difference between 3-UCs and 2-UCs are more distinct than I first thought. After massive research for my new book, you, and others, will see what I mean when you read it. But for now, I’ll answer this question from what has been released earlier, before additional, more detailed information is published.

There are human 2-UCs, and then we have the Overlords, of course. The Overlords don’t care because there is no such thing as karma. If there was karma, the Overlords would have been “taken care of” a long time ago. Karma only exists if we believe in it. Cause and effect is a valid concept, based on energy flow, but that’s something else. The Universe Herself is not judgmental in that sense, only thought responsive.

If we lie and steal and do other things that are hurtful to others, and we do it on purpose, and without making amends, it lowers our vibrations, and even if we don’t get caught, it will be more and more difficult to reconnect to Spirit, and therefore, such people might, long-term, have difficulties to enter Orion. A narcissist, for example, does not have a conscience, so for them, it wouldn’t make a difference. For a “regular person” with a conscience, we cause both ourselves and the one we stole from and lied to emotional pain, if nothing else. No happy lives for these people.

If a person acts in “ignorance,” aka stupidity and Darkness, it’s because they are already very compromised and low on the awareness scale. Such a person would have a rough time in Orion because of their ignorance. Evil is ignorance, regardless of how the person justifies it. Unless the person is indeed a narcissist, they know, deep inside, what is right and wrong is, but they do it anyway. The rest is only justifications for bad behavior.

Question #3: I Have purchased some of your publications: Orion, Orion volume 2 & The First Level on Learning all from Amazon. Thank you and keep going please, fascinating and requires a critical thinking approach, looking forward to your new publication soon.

I wanted to ask you this:

In the Orion Book, Volume 2, there is a photograph of the actual Grid that appears to have holes in it and beyond that you can see the stars in the greater universe.

Is this something we can see (with our eyes) because I thought it was a grid that was invisible to our limited senses in these “meat suits”, so to speak, or is it visible from our 3 dimensional reality after all? I believe that when in altered states of consciousness, you can actually see this, but how was this taken?

Comment: I am sorry if people are confused by the picture, but the image of the “Grid” in Volume 2 is not the actual Grid (see the picture above). The picture was originally posted on our forum by a forum member who is a remote viewer. He’s been out there in the astral, and he’s seen the Grid. The picture I attached is the best one he could find to describe what he saw. Therefore, “the current possible version of the Grid.” I did not mean it literally, but I understand if it came across that way.

So, I guess that answers the rest of your questions, too, at least for the most part. You cannot see the Grid with your bare eyes because we are restricted by our 5 senses while in our sapiens bodies. Some remote viewers, whether they are aware of my information, have seen the Grid, however, including Farsight, and I believe, Dick Allgire’s group, as well.

In an altered state of consciousness, knowing what you are looking for, there is always a chance you can see it.

Question #4: If someone outwardly presents themselves as spiritual but secretly behaves like an Overlord, what is really happening with that person on a metaphysical level? Could this explain why some people, despite engaging in spiritual practices and being convinced that they are spiritual, are still internally insecure, feel the need to defend themselves and their views, emphasize their spirituality, and are even aggressive toward others who don’t share the same beliefs?

Is stealing back from the system or the thieves/Overlords still considered deceit that weighs on our soul? Or does it not matter whom we steal from or lie to  since theft is theft and a lie is a lie?

Comment: Right, the so-called “spiritual narcissists.” If they behave like the Overlords, they will be treated as the Overlords. However, according to my current research, everybody has a possibility in the future to repent before the Court of Orion, but it needs to be honest—not because they are afraid and would repent to anything. Are we then just going to forgive everyone who repents? No, not really, but there is a much higher aspect to it, which will be clearly explained in my book. Orion can see the difference between fake and genuine when people face them in Orion.

Many “spiritual narcissists” were born specifically to mislead people—they get “rewarded” for working for the Overlords (or so they think). Also, virtually all “gurus” fall into this category, including the Dalai Lamas. Spiritual narcissists are like any narcissists—they are never wrong, and they defend their viewpoints almost with their lives, even when it’s obvious they are wrong.

Stealing back from the System what has been stolen from us is not theft. If someone steals your watch, and you know who it is, and you see this person take your watch off their wrist for a while and you “steal it back,” you only take back what was yours in the first place. Doing so proves that you, “stealing it back” has woken up, spiritually, and stopped accepting terrible behavior.

Question #5: There is someone who claims to do remote viewing on those who managed to get out of the hole in the Grid, but they were picked up by the Demiurge or GF (Galactic Federation, Wes’ comment) ship [sic] and trafficked back to earth or another world.

Is this possible?

If you’ve already successfully left through the Grid, are you still vulnerable to manipulation from those beings?

(See screenshot above).

Comment: The person who said that has probably read my work (or some of it) and put his own spin on it to instigate fear to get more traffic to his social media site.

There is no Galactic Federation in the sense it’s presented in New Age and UFO communities. It’s made up by the Intelligent Agencies to mislead people. So, I fully believe this guy made it all up.

But besides that, are we “safe” after going through the Grid? I would argue that as long as we remain in the solar system, we are prone to manipulation—but only if we let it happen. The same policy applies as when we’re in the astral: pay no attention to anyone whatsoever. Just do your thing! I can’t stress this enough.

So long as a person is determined, ignores distractions of any kind, they are safe. When you are out of the Grid, just think yourself to where you want to go. There is a handout written by one of the forum members at https://wespenreboards.com, where anyone can sign up for free. His “pen name” is Suzaku, and he explains the exit procedure and how to act once we’re out of the Grid. You can download a copy for free here: https://wespenrevideos.com/2022/07/21/exit-handout-steps-to-leave-the-matrix/. I also wrote many articles on this subject, of which this is one is perhaps the most important: https://wespenrevideos.com/2023/09/17/the-ultimate-way-to-exit-through-the-grid/. Both models will work, and the reader can choose which one feels best for them.

So, just think yourself to where you want to go, whether it’s general, like going to Orion, or if it’s going to the highest possible aspect of the Queen, or something else. Just make sure you think yourself outside the solar system, and you will be in Orion. The Universe is thought responsive.

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