Q&A Session #26, 2025

By Wes Penre, August 26, 2025

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Please note: If the question(s) you submit is/are omitted, it’s usually for two reasons: there was no space to include all questions that week, so keep an eye open for one of the following Q&As.  Alternatively, and for some reason, the question(s) did not fit the hallmark for a Q&A—perhaps too broad or complex to answer in this format. It’s never because I think a question is “stupid.”

Unfortunately, I don’t have time to watch videos people sometimes send me as part of the question. Instead, please take the part of the video that relates to the question and write that into the question. Also, please refrain from sending websites or lengthy PDF files I don’t have time to read. When I receive these attachments and links, I must automatically disregard these questions unless I can comment on them without having to attend to the attachments.

Question #1: On page 215 of your book (The Nature of the Multiverse), you state that the only place we can heal our timelines is here on this prison planet. If that is true, then whatever state of beingness we have achieved at the point of body death would be what we are stuck with. Are you claiming that we can’t progress intellectually and spiritually in our original state of beingness?

That would not seem logical because to change one’s mind is simply a choice. To repent is to acknowledge that one has done things that are unethical and that we have chosen to discontinue doing so. If one’s intentions are to be perfectly ethical and we renew this intention in new units of time, then it stands to reason that we would achieve the goal of perfect ethics. Please respond.

Comment: We don’t need to be perfect when we exit, but we must repent to life in the Matrix and detach from the entire Matrix complex.

What I meant by the book statement was that here on Earth is where all the traumas and experiences took place. Because of our amnesia, much of the progress we make here is by learning through pain and suffering. That’s far from the best way to learn, but it tends to wake us up enough to hopefully not make the same mistake again because it hurts. That doesn’t always work, as we know, since we all make personal choices, but it’s a catalyst, nonetheless. After an undesirable experience, we get a chance to make another choice next time we’re in a similar situation. Ironically, it becomes an opportunity for growth.

As well as everything we’ve experienced since the creation of the Matrix happened within the Matrix, it is here that we have the opportunity to correct our mistakes and to wake up to the fact that we don’t belong here and that we are spiritual beings. We don’t have the same catalysts beyond Earth’s life. If you think about people in the alternative fields, they got there because they started thinking. Why did they do that? Because many, if not most, people who question what we have been taught do so because of traumatic experiences that make them ask questions, e.g., “Why is this world so cruel?” A perfectly happy and content individual usually does not bother looking at “deeper meanings.”

When we experience pain and abuse, we can respond in two significant ways: we either spiral downward, or we learn something about ourselves from it. If the latter, we slowly reverse the damage done to us and what we did to ourselves. An ignorant person who dies takes ignorance with them into the astral and has no clue that there is a way to exit the Matrix. Let’s say En.ki and his team allow an ignorant person to ascend to the next archontic heaven (the Fourth or Fifth Dimension, depending on which New Age philosophy we go by), that person will not learn much that’s useful, really. It’s a slow process. They will be even more indoctrinated by archontic doctrines, believing they are now ascended. Barbara Marciniak’s Pleiadians said it best, and I paraphrase: “Humans learn about a thousand times faster on Earth…”

When we exit through the Grid, we exit in the shape (vibration) we’re in at the exit point. However, once out of the Matrix, we are no longer in the low density that allows for complete amnesia, and we are not subjected to the archontic recycling procedure, which erases the last of our memories. Therefore, after exiting, we can continue progressing and learning from there. But the more we stick to matrix thinking at the departure moment, the more work we have to do after the exit, when we could have worked on that while still incarnated here.  

Question #2: My question concerns the soul vs spirit. I understand the spirit , but I seek clarification concerning the soul.

Is the soul part of the flesh suit, or is there also an overlap with the spirit?

We speak of entities that have no spirit but have soul. I believe when we pass it is only the spirit that matters in escaping the matrix. So what is the condition of the soul while we are alive, and what part doesn’t it play while in the flesh suits ? Can the soul be the conduit to the entities and beings that walk among us that invade our thoughts, and bring darkness to our spirit?

Comment: The soul is what I call the Avatar (the cosmic vehicle) in the WPP. It’s a physical construction and does not exist in the Spirit Realm (the Pleroma), which is pure Spirit. The Avatar/Soul comprises trillions of fires (spirit ignitions), being the “drivers” of the Avatar. So, the soul is basically a container for Spirit. The Fires also allow us to shapeshift and to be in more than one place at the same time (think remote viewing as an example).

However, in the Matrix, we have our artificial bodies (homo sapiens), comprising trillions of cells, as we know from science. These cells are bioelectrical, making the physical body our physical avatar. Spirit is still running it through the sparks within the cells (trillions of cells ignited by trillions of tiny fires). When the body expires, we withdraw these fires from the cells, and the body becomes an empty shell. These fires then reform into an orb-shaped soul container again, which is captured by the BLA (Between-Lives-Area) workers, who empty the soul-avatar from all memories, harvest the energy from our experience in our recent life, and shoot us down again into a new body, wiped clean of all memories. We must then start from scratch again, relying solely on ancestral memories to learn everything from the beginning, except for what we also learn from our environment, of course.

When we talk about those having a soul but no Spirit, we’re talking about those who are not carrying human Spirit. All humans originate from ONE Spirit “entity” or Aeon, sometimes called Geradamas in the Gnostic texts. We are all splinters of that Aeon. When we say that some people lack Spirit, it’s more figuratively speaking because they are not human (Geradamas). For our physical bodies to move around at all, they must carry Spirit in some form. Usually, they contain the Spirit of the Archons, which is basically Sophia working through them (see my two recent books, “Battles Between Shadow and Light” and “The Nature of the Multiverse,” available on Amazon.com). That’s convenient for the Archons, since they have direct access to these beings, who we think are humans but are not. They are not of the “Noble Bloodline,” as Orion calls it.

How much ability the Archons have (En.ki, etc.) to possess humans and/or work in the background, distorting our thoughts, etc., depends on a person’s DNA. The more archontic DNA a person has, the easier it is for Archons to compromise them.

Question #3: There are around 6 billion people today. A long time ago, there were probably no more than 100 million. How do we account for the huge number of souls today versus back then? 

Were all these souls held in the astral until bodies became available?

Comment: En.ki is responsible for our Matrix containers (the Matrix souls/avatars), which differ from the Orion containers (Avatars). The Archons in the BLA can create as many souls as they want and shoot them down into a fetus. The human parents share their DNA with the child, and the mother (mostly) is responsible for sharing Spirit Fires (Geradamas Fires) with the child. By doing this, the mother splits her Spirit Fires and gives appropriate Spirit energy to the child. Thus, we can multiply physically, indefinitely. This usually does not deplete the mother of energy (except perhaps temporarily. It may take a while for a mother to recover after childbirth) because Spirit is immortal and exists in abundance. We keep refilling our reservoirs constantly—or are supposed to. Sadly, most humans are, to a large degree, disconnected from their true selves, the Human Spirit/Higher Self, and it takes longer for them to recover their energy, and to a degree, need to regain it from the environment. There is more to this than I have space to discuss here, such as the recent reduction in energy intake from the Central Fire, which happened pretty recently. There is more about this in my books—I believe it’s mentioned in most of them, but also in the WPP.  

(My comments are built on my personal conclusions, based on my research. Readers must make their own connections and conclusions, of course. Nothing is “set in stone” and is subject to change and expansion).

Question #4: Hi Wes, hoping all is well with you, after recently re watching Jurassic Park the movie after several years, I wonder about the dino age, we know there was one, I don’t believe the numbers of years they throw at us concerning it, but was this one of Enki’s creations or an insert at some point? Was just wondering if you have any comments on this. Thank you.

Comment: I have started questioning the existence of dinosaurs, in general, at least in the shape and form they are presented by science. Were there reptiles here in the far-gone past? Yes, more than likely. Were they as huge and ferocious as we’ve been taught? Doubtful. In the WPP, I wrote that humans and dinosaurs coexisted, but who were the dinosaurs, really? The Archons (Anunnaki)? There are serious researchers out there who do a good job debunking the official dinosaur story, and many of their hypotheses and theories make a lot of sense. Those who are interested, research it.

Question #5: Can we still exit the way you used to teach? Or is the new wifi cage cutting us off now?

Comment: Nothing has changed in that regard. We can still use the same exit strategy as I have discussed earlier (https://wespenrevideos.com/category/exiting-the-grid/).

Question #6: On page 385 of your book ( The Nature of the Multiverse ), it says, Taking your own life greatly lowers the quality of your personal traits and your version of the highest aspect of yourself outside this Construct. Is there any evidence to support this statement?

Comment: Yes, that statement is supported by mainstream physics. It has to do with energy and vibrations. The speed at which something vibrates determines its density of physicality. We are bioelectrical beings, wholly based on energy. Therefore, our vibration as conscious beings determines what we experience inside ourselves, and consequently, outside ourselves, in our environment. Committing suicide is connected with a specific vibration range, so a person who ends their own life will experience a lower density state than someone who works on expanding themselves until their time is up (an exception would be someone whose quality of life is so diminished they can’t function anymore). The lower the density when we plan to exit through the Grid, the more difficult it might be since the person will likely have astral experiences and obstacles harder to bypass.

Also, there is no end to learning. There is no reason to cut things short, since there is always more to learn about ourselves here in our last incarnation (see my comments to the questions above).

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4 comments

  1. Wes, if we return to the source, i.e., the Pleroma, and are to be absorbed/integrated with Geradamas, will we lose our personality/individuality? That would be the same thing that will happen to the overlords. Or am I misunderstanding that?

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