Q&A Session #32, 2025

By Wes Penre

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Question #1: Mister Wes, by chance, do you know the original number of Namlu’u that were on Tiamat, and how many of us are here on our prison planet? When we leave this construct and reunite with fellow Namlu’u, it has occurred to me that we will know them because of our original telepathic connection. Do you agree?

Comment: I can’t say exactly how many Namlú’u there were to begin with, how many went to our current Earth, how many went back to Orion after the Flood, and how many are here now. If we look around us, it seems to me we are in the minority. Many people act like 2-UCs, i.e., they possess a counterfeit soul/avatar, and there also seems to be a large number of NPCs. A breakdown of what is what and who is who in that regard, see my reply to Question #3 below.

Yes, once in Orion, I believe we should not have any problems finding each other. We will communicate with thoughts, and we can communicate over distances. It’s my suggestion that we humans all stick together in Orion. Particularly at the beginning, we may need each other’s support as we adjust to our new environment.

Question #2: Wes, you mentioned in one of your books that as long as we’re here in the Matrix, the hole in the grid is constantly imprinted on our minds, because otherwise it wouldn’t be visible. My main question would be whether we manifest the hole in our thoughts, because otherwise it wouldn’t exist? Thanks

Comment: The Grid is basically what Carl Jung called the Unconscious Mind. It’s the mind that connects all human beings on the planet—it’s the network, and it’s held together with Orion technology, currently used by the Sirians (Archons). Therefore, the Grid is primarily within us all, and a significant part of why we feel connected to each other in this physical realm.

I have received questions over the years, asking why astral travelers and near-death experiencers, for example, rarely seem to notice the Grid and its holes (although some of them do). I would say the reason for this is that we sometimes have a hard time noticing things we don’t know exist. It’s “buried” inside us and not accessible until it’s brought to the forefront of our minds.

Question #3: There is much talk about soulless people. Soulless beings were mentioned already by Blavatsky. At the same time, Rudolf Steiner spoke of the human essence, the core, which does not appear to be the soul, but something deeper. From your works, it seems that all homo sapiens bodies possess a Matrix soul. But then, who are these soulless ones that so many people speak of? Where do the children born today through artificial insemination fit into this? Could they be soulless?  

It seems to me that those whom Blavatsky referred to as soulless were actually the non-spirited ones or NPCs, and that the ensouled humans were the ones from Geradamas, because Blavatsky mentions the divine spark as something that indicates they have a soul. Not sure how the 2-UCs fit in. Could you please explain what your understanding is and what gives your understanding its weight?  

Comment: We can look at this from two perspectives: The perspective I developed in my research and that of the Nag Hammadi Gnostic texts. It’s essentially the same thing, but I’ll share my perspective here, or this comment would be too long.

3-UCs:

That is, you and me, the original humans. We are all the same, originating in the “Pleroma,” a term for Dark Energy, one could say. Our Spirit fire is then merged with an Avatar (soul) in Orion, which makes it possible for us to move around in the cosmos without physical bodies. The soul is physical and mortal, whereas the Spirit is eternal. Then we have a physical homo sapiens body, which also comprises Spirit fire from the Queen of the Stars. We have trillions of blood cells in our bodies, and each of them is sparked with Sofia’s Spirit. Without that Spirit, our physical bodies could not move. In bodily death, these fires leave the cells, and we say that the body dies.

The Gnostic texts discuss counterfeit spirits and counterfeit souls. Sometimes, it seems they are the same, and at other times, they seem to separate the two.  I have given a lot of thought to that, and I believe the counterfeit spirit and soul are essentially what Sofia’s soul splinters in our sapiens bodies become within the astral body, which serves as a blueprint for our physical body. En.ki and his team create counterfeit soul containers in the Matrix, which are not the same as our Orion Avatars, which are dormant so long as we are in the Matrix. Hence, the ethereal body astral travelers use is the counterfeit soul container, comprising Sofia’s Spirit, coordinated with the trillions of fires operating in the blood cells.

The Original Spirit (Geradamas) is more like an “Observer,” but still connected to the true human. But it is the Orion Avatar that creates the individual personality that develops accordingly to the Avatar’s experiences in the physical and ethereal environments. Here in the Matrix, we are mostly disconnected from Spirit in our current conditions. Sometimes, we have epiphanies and sudden flashes of information, a stream of consciousness coming through. That’s the Original Spirit.

When we die, all fires in the blood cells gather inside the astral body. It’s the astral body that goes into the Tunnel of Light, where the fires are stolen in the recycling center, and the astral workers send down an empty soul container into a fetus on Earth. This container will then be filled with the fires from the homo sapiens blood cells, the mother shares her original Spirit with the baby, and life starts over again with complete amnesia.

2-UCs:

These are beings who lack the Pleroma Spirit that humans possess, what the Gnostics call Geradamas (there are other names for Geradamas, as well, but I chose to use this particular term). Their soul containers in the Matrix consist of Sofia’s fire (from the blood cells), correlating with a counterfeit Matrix soul, which is, in general terms, the astral body. So, the “only” Spirit they possess is what exists in their sapiens bodies. To be considered a human, you must be a 3-UC. It can be difficult to recognize who is a 3-UC and who is a 2-UC here on Earth, since people have amnesia, and even 3-UCs often act like 2-UCs because 3-UCs are commonly not in touch with the original Spirit.

These beings are constructed differently, and the Akashic Records keep track of who is who across the lifetimes. Therefore, 3-UC mothers can sometimes give birth to a 2-UC child; when she subconsciously shares her original Spirit with her baby, it doesn’t stick, unbeknownst to the mother.

Star beings, born inside stars, are 2-UCs, as well. They have Sophia’s Spirit (distributed by Sophia’s “Luminary” in the Spirit Realm, whom the Gnostics call Eleleth). They have physical bodies inside the stars and evolve there. When they are ready to leave the star and explore the Multiverse, they can gain Spirit, but it’s my understanding that it’s a loan, so they, too, can become creator gods. 2-UCs are not immortal—not on Earth and not in Orion.

2-UCs that were created in the Matrix can’t leave the Matrix because they are of the Matrix.

NPCs:

From all I can tell, these beings are A.I. Although humans also run on a program, and very few thoughts are genuine, NPCs take that to another level. We could say they are cosmic androids and have no consciousness of their own. They run completely on a program and can’t construct genuine thoughts at all. They are sometimes called “background people,” and they learn in the exact way that AI does in our daily life (ChatGPT, etc.). They mimic us and can therefore seem very intelligent. But they are distractions. Not all of them are evil, but it seems that some narcissists and psychopaths may be NPCs, sent down here to keep humans confused and controlled.

Question #4: I watch YouTube videos from a podcaster named PS Montgomery, who follows your work. She recently posted a video (narrated by a male) that mentions facts about archons, and one point was particularly interesting to me. It was about archons possessing the people around us to steal our energy , especially those of us who are more spiritual. 

I am constantly tested by those around me, especially my mom, my whole life. I’ve done so much just to try and steer clear of these types of people, but no matter where I go and what I do, I keep attracting them. And I wish I could say it was me, like New Agers have you believe.  I’m just at my wits’ end.

My question is – How do we know Archons possess those around us, and what can we do to protect ourselves from their attacks? 

I appreciate it. I hope this email finds you well 

Comment: I found PS Montgomery on YouTube some time ago, and because of her content, we got in touch, and we have become friends. She is well worth checking out because she posts good information. She has also written a great novel about En.ki and the recycling center called “The Summerland.” You can find it on Amazon.com. However, it appears to be out of print. I need to contact her about that.

I doubt there is any person on Earth who hasn’t encountered a narcissist or a psychopath in their lives. We can’t avoid them in all situations. What we can do is build strong boundaries and not let them in. Accept zero abuse from anybody. If someone says or does something abusive—call it out to them! If they realize what they did was wrong, they will not repeat it and apologize. If they repeat it, cut them out completely. No one has the right to abuse you—not even a little.

We all have “archontic DNA” inside us, and everybody has a “dark side,” as it were. Our task is to keep that in check and override it. We recognize it by our thought patterns and our behavior. The same thing applies to other people. I love this quote from Jesus, actually, “By their fruit you shall know them.”

Be like a laser beam and don’t compromise with what you see and hear. It doesn’t mean that all people who misbehave at times are bad. However, as I mentioned earlier, you can test them by pointing out their behavior and observing their reaction. Do they repent, apologize, and stop repeating it? If so, that person is probably okay. If they don’t change, cut them off, or if it’s a job situation, for example, have as little as possible to do with such a person.

Question #5: Who are the Alpha Draconians and where do they come from? How do we know a et if we see one because we have this shape-shifting phenomena? What about the Reptoids aka the Reptiloids spoken of in Thomas Casello’s account?

Comment: The Alpha Draconians were originally a soul group living in Alpha Draconis. They were not evil reptilians or “Dracos.” They were invaded by Marduk a long time ago and made slaves. So, Alpha Draconis is now under Marduk’s control. It has nothing to do with Reptilians—at least not in the sense Dracos are portrayed in the alternative research community.

The Reptoids, however, are reptilians and live inside Earth. They are an earlier experiment, before homo sapiens, and they were forced underground by the Archons. They still live there, from what I understand. Humans may sometimes encounter them.

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