Q&A Session #4, May 2024

By Wes Penre, May 28, 2024

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Question #1: Where I sometimes get confused is with real and fake Jews.

Or why would Jews keep sacrificing their own people? Or maybe it’s just the Jewish elite sacrificing normal people of the Jewish faith? So how hard the last few years have been for anti-vaccinationists and vaccine victims in Israel. I did wonder about that.

Some other things you’re not allowed to talk about on pain of punishment.

In general, it is better to first doubt everything you read and then take your time to feel whether it is correct. Or another deliberate distraction.

Comment: The Elite, who does the Overlords’ biddings, don’t care whether someone is a Jew, a gentile, a Muslim, or whatnot, so long as the sacrifice of a group of people, for example, enhances their agenda. Everyone here is disposable, from the person on the street to the highest Elite. In conspiracy circles, some Elite families, such as the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds are portrayed as Jewish. They are so-called Ashkenazi “Jews,” which is not the same as those of the Jewish-Hebrew DNA.

Question #2: Hello, I had asked a question that appeared in Q&A Session #4 April 22, 2024, about Marduk being Jeshua Of Nazareth… Everything having to do with Jeshua Of Nazareth is really just Marduk? You had mentioned before that Marduk incarnated into the body of Jeshua… I am confused why he did that in the first place being that he is in the category of being a bad/evil being. Was it just to acquire loosh from those who pray to him later in life, could he see into the future?

You had also mentioned that Khan En.lil was the Christ Consciousness / The Christ who had channeled through Jeshua from the Pleroma… What was the point of any of it? And why did Marduk, who was already self-aware and powerful, need Khan En.lil to channel through him. Aren’t they both powerful all on their own?

And If Marduk is a bad guy, were all of the good things said to have been done by Jeshua all done so as to be able to manipulate the people around him and the reality is that he never cared about anyone he claimed to care about like his disciples and his own mother and father and Mary?

Last question. When people get high off of praising Jeshua through Christian songs whether it be gospel or any other Christian music and claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit, are they just tricking themselves into what they are feeling? I have tried to turn a friend of mine onto your information, but they couldn’t get past the idea that Jeshua of the bible, who they worship and look to all answers of life to, is actually Marduk/ Lucifer, which I imagine most Christians could not do.

Comment: I will write more about Yeshua/Marduk in my upcoming book. It has to do with the Book of Revelation and Bible Prophecy. Marduk had to do what he did when he created the Jesus myth, and that will be explained in the book. All the “good things” Jesus did, according to the New Testament, is all taken from different, much older matriarchal stories, from Atlantis. What Marduk did was to establish an invisible, All-Mighty God (masculine), and because En.ki was more of less out of the equation at the time of Jesus, Marduk became the Son (Sun), Khan En.lil became God, and Mary/Isis the Holy Spirit. So, Marduk took all these ancient Mother Goddess stories, flipped them, and made them patriarchal, elevating himself to Jesus and Khan En.lil to God. That’s just the beginning. Because how things turned out for the Khan Kings at the Jesus time period, the Jesus story was a way to attempt to save their skin. Also, in the Gnostic texts it becomes obvious that Marduk is Jesus and Khan En.lil is God. It’s all patriarchal.

People who adhere to the New Testament narrative and find that comforting, thus creating a strong belief, have a difficult time challenging their religious world view. It makes them uncomfortable and scared. Hence, they reject everything that contradicts their rigid belief. They refuse to even look at it from another perspective. The only way for a person who embraces Jesus as the Savior to challenge it is to research it and compare ancient texts (which the Bible is only one of many). Soon, another pattern starts unfolding. It takes bravery to challenge one’s beliefs. Still, it needs to be done if we ever want to release ourselves from the Overlords’ chains and leave this Construct.

Regarding your last question: What people experience in Christian ceremonies, and in ceremonies in general, has nothing to do with God or Jesus. The human imagination and mind’s creation are great. We are creator gods. If someone (and especially a group coming together) believe in something very strongly, they can manifest things inside their minds that become very real to them. It’s not about worshiping deities or singing religious songs. Religion has nothing to do with it—it is all about energy. It’s the energy work that creates the outcome—the flow of energy that’s created in ceremonies and occult rituals—not God or Satan.

Question #3: You mentioned in the “Simulations and The Wheels of Time” book that the pyramids were inserted. I want to share with you a photo of my brother posing by the Giza Pyramids when he was there on holiday a few years back. He literally looks like he is touching the top of the center one. I have seen similar photos on Google images of people who look like they are touching the top of the pyramid. Is this an optical illusion from the effects of insertion? Could you explain this phenomenon?

By the way, you can use this photo in your Q&A when my question is presented. He is NOT into conspiracy theories and the like. He follows mainstream media like it’s the gospel. Therefore, he’s likely not to come across his photo. Here now is a photo of my brother and one I found from Google Images:(see below).

Comment: I have only these photos to go by, and from all I can see, these two people point at the tip of the pyramid from a distance, and the way the photos are taken, it looks like they are actually able to touch the tips of the constructs. So yes, from what I can see, they are optical illusions.

Question #4: We live in a free will universe, but there seems to be some restrictions to that. At least free will does not seem to be the highest law.

There is freewill in a developing world, in that contained environment, souls can work peacefully together or battle each other. It’s more or less their choice. Of course, a big influence on that development is how the experiment is set up.

But is there also freewill in the greater universe?

So why did the Orion force and the Queen interfere when Tiamat got attacked by the Sirians? What about free will then?

If Orion didn’t want war (or hostile takeovers), then each war, everywhere should be stopped by Orion. That is certainly not the case.

So free will seems to be sort of selective or bound by rules.

If there is an Orion court, then there also have to be some kind of rules or standards by with certain situations are judged.

So, there are rules and laws, other than free will, that each inhabitant of the universe must comply to.

So far I have found that there a rules /laws about:

-property /ownership: Universes, creations, soul groups.

-a developing world cannot be interfered with. Or there has to be giving permission to an outside entity to enter a developing world (so that implies that outside a developing world interference is allowed?)

-free will, in the greater universe, is within the boundaries and restrictions of other rules. So free will does not mean; just do what you want.

-In a developing world there is also free will. Within the experiment, anything goes. So it seems.

-repaying the energy that’s been given to us from the central fire, in form of creation. I have mixed feelings about this. It’s not that I don’t want to participate, but the fact that there is unbeknownst to us put a debt on us. It is a mechanism that makes creation expand. But are we just the work bees?

-many other rules, that I don’t know yet…

Maybe it’s good to think about rules and restrictions, so we get a better understanding of how it works.

Here on earth some rules are made up by the players, but the most important ones are made by the overlords.

In the greater universe it seems more or less the same. Within your our own creation you can set the rules, but you always have to conform to the universal laws.

Comment: What I call the Greater Universe is still the physical universe (the visible universe + “dark matter”). So yes, freewill applies there, too. Freewill only means “free will of choice.” All beings make choices constantly, every day, and after we make a choice, there is a consequence based on that choice. So, we then must deal with that consequence (“good” or “bad”), and make new choices, and so on, which in the long run makes for a better life or a worse life—we develop, or we degrade, depending on how we choose in life.

There are, of course, other laws or rules in the Greater Universe as well, just like here, such as non-interference of a developing soul group without permission from the Overseer of a certain solar system (the Overseer often being the creator god, as I’ve understood it). There are, as you suggest, many other rules to follow. Rules are not a bad thing if they are just and make sense. Raw Spirit is considered being “chaos” because it’s not “formed” yet. The purpose is to bring order out of chaos (although the Overlords have their own perspective on how this should be done). Sometimes, to bring order, we need rules and laws.

The Orions did not “interfere” in the Battle of Tiamat—they were the ones who were attacked. When someone is attacked, they need to defend themselves. That’s what happened there.

Regarding the energy debt, and how beings need to contribute with the energy they are borrowing, I have covered that in other places—particularly in my books. It’s too much to get into here but keep reading. It also, to some degree, is about bringing order out of chaos. The Queen does not want a violent universe, or one of wars and conflicts—neither do most of us humans (at least not in a “pure” state). To this dilemma, we humans are made to be part of the soulution. More about that in the upcoming book as well.

I find the hermetic expression, “as above, so below, and as without, so within” very helpful and accurate. I’m referring to the conditions in the Greater Universe compared to here. But in the Greater Universe, there is no amnesia between lives, no outside manipulation, and there are no “Overlords” who stop people from evolving (except perhaps in worlds conquered by beings such as the Khan Kings).

Question #5: Hi Wes, my daughter just lost her cat of 20 years, and she’s grieving. I tried to help console her by letting her know that the animal kingdom is comprised of 2-UCs (she knows the universal composite theory). Also that they probably have a between lives areas like us as well, and maybe even get their soul shot down into another cat. And maybe, just possibly, she can meet him again one day. Long shot of course, I know, but it made her feel better. Was this information correct that I relate to her? Thanks.

Comment: Losing a pet is an extremely traumatic event for us humans—I know firsthand. We create strong bonds with the animals. I don’t know very much about the destiny of pets and animals. The closest I have come to find out was through Barbara Marciniak’s “Pleiadians.” When they got this question, they said animals are of a different soul group than humans. When they die, they go to a “pool” of soul energy, specifically designated to them. Then, when a new pet/animal is born, an astral body is created for that animal, and life begins. As you can see, it’s not much different from how it works for us humans. Our personality is wiped out in the astral after each incarnation, and we must start over from scratch in a new body. We humans incarnate in the same bloodline over and over. Whether this is true for animals, I don’t know. What we have in common with animals is that we draw knowledge from our ancestral line, and the “evolution” mainly happens by learning from these past experiences, in conjunction with how we act and react to the present environment—what choices we make.

Animals, when they are dying, are not afraid like we are. They usually withdraw from the “pack” (humans in the case of pets) and wait for it to happen. They have not been trained and mind-controlled like we have that death is scary. Of course, animals in the wild, who are about to be eaten, are fearful, because they know they will be killed before their time, and they dread the pain, I would imagine. But animals who die naturally don’t feel that fear. It’s much worse for the human who is left behind when the pet dies. My consolation to your daughter and her loss…

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