Q&A Session #5, 2025

By Wes Penre, January 31, 2025

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Please note! Suppose the question(s) you submit is/are omitted. In that case, it’s usually for two reasons: I couldn’t include all questions that week, so keep an eye open for one of the following Q&As, or for some reason, the question(s) did not fit the hallmark for a Q&A—perhaps too broad or complex to answer in this format. It’s never because I think a question is “stupid.”

Here is this week’s session:

Question #1: Who are The WingMakers and James Mahu? I suspect it’s the AIF[1] funneling more people into the New Age dead end.

Comment: I don’t know exactly who James Mahu truly is. However, my Contact was from Orion, and he didn’t know about Mahu until I pointed him out. This means he’s not from Orion but from the Lesser Universe that the Gnostics call the Kenoma. In other words, he is not on our side—particularly as he claims he is not human (except now, when he has a human body). A lot of good information in WingMakers Material (WMM) is worth studying, but that’s how he attracts people’s interest. He can tell us many useful things if his soulutions don’t hold water. When so, it will still not make people free. My Contact once called it “sophisticated disinformation.”

Question #2: Were we just children, literally, when the invasion of Tiamat occurred?

Comment: No, we were never physically children in Tiamat. We were androgynous, and we did not procreate and had children. A set number of Namlú’u were placed inside the planet to operate in Orion and the Kenoma simultaneously. We were here on a mission (see my book, “Battles Between Shadow and Light”), and we were supposed to complete it in “one go,” without death. To be androgynous also means that we operate in both the Spirit Realm and the Physical Realm simultaneously—we are multi-dimensional.

Question #3: In Q&A Session N 4, you wrote:

The universes are fluid and exist within and without each other in a cosmic dance. Therefore, the Pleroma (the Spirit Realm) is in your room, and so are Orion and the Kenoma (the Void). We need to vibrate on these frequencies to perceive them and access these different realms while still in this solid density. Thus, “connecting with Spirit” means you connect with the Pleroma when you have your “bright moments” of insights.

Does this also mean that if we connect with our Spirit in Orion, it is theoretically possible, through our Spirit, to also connect with our departed loved ones who have managed to leave the Matrix and are now freely in Orion?

Comment: Yes, it’s possible. Beings living in the physical universe, whether in the Matrix or Orion, are connected in an all-encompassing network, like a “spider web.” Everything from the neurons in our brains, the human soul group through the unconscious mind, the cosmic highways (see picture above), the Grid, and beings in Orion are all connected through “spider webs.” We are psychically connected through common primordial DNA created in Orion at the beginning of Orion’s existence.

Still, each being is their own individual because of choices and experiences, creating a basic personality from which they can evolve or de-evolve, depending on how they approach life. You are slightly different from me, yet we are the same. Our soul vibration is established depending on our choices and how we react to the consequences. Here on Earth, the average vibration of the human soul group is low compared to our potential, and therefore, there is a disconnection between our conscious mind (the Matrix mind) and Spirit. However, some of us “wake up” and incrementally regain the connection with Spirit that we once had—we become more androgynous again—making the psychic connection between two individuals possible. Distance is irrelevant because, essentially, there is no distance. Regardless of how we look at it, thought travels instantaneously over any “distance,” whether the other person is in the next apartment or Orion. It takes no longer for your thoughts to reach Orion than it does to reach your neighbor. Hence, science is wrong. They claim it takes four years to travel to the closest star, Proxima Centauri if we travel at the speed of light. But they don’t understand that beings outside the Matrix System and the Kenoma travel instantly by thinking themselves to the destination.

Question #4: Pardon the creepiness. I know one creates reality, but why are you still alive, releasing all this when we often hear about researchers being taken down? There are already some waves-ideas about it in my mind because I know it is not this linear discourse, but I would like to hear what you think about this point in your life. 

Comment: I wouldn’t say that researchers are often taken down. It has happened, but then, the EL-ite has had their reasons to do so. Usually, it’s because the researcher happened to investigate something very sensitive, such as “National Security issues” or something similar, and despite warnings, continued their research. The EL-ite doesn’t put it into the system to kill researchers—that wouldn’t look good for them.

Instead, they intimidate, troll, infiltrate, manipulate, take down websites, hack, threaten, and bug the researchers, trying to make them discouraged or afraid and give up. I have been subjected to everything in this paragraph—most recently was yesterday when my email was hacked again, and I know who they are. Norton (the anti-virus program) notified me.

Question #5: I don’t want to keep bothering you, but I cannot find a clear answer about this… Is the Afterlife or Astral Plane in a different location than The Orion Empire?

Can you please briefly explain the Orion Empire’s relationship with the Astral Plane?

Comment: Sure. The easiest way to explain the astral is to envision it as an intermediary between the Matrix and the Greater Universe. If we want to place it somewhere, it would be in the Matrix. It’s not a part of Orion.

It may be hard to fathom, but nothing exists outside or inside of something else; it exists everywhere simultaneously. Everything is fluid, like an ocean, and energies flow in waves in and out of each other in a constant dance. The astral is in the room you sit in, and so are Orion and the Spirit Realm. However, for convenience, living beings look at things as inside and outside themselves, which is not how it works.

Conclusively, there is no relationship between Orion and the astral for those who dwell in Orion.

Question #6: I have read your whole series (not all recently) and appreciate you sharing your insights with the world.

My question is this: There must be benevolent beings out there in the universe, both in the artificial one we find ourselves in and the real one outside of it, right? Why hasn’t there been a more concerted effort to liberate Earth and similar worlds that find themselves at the mercy of these psychopathic beings? For heaven’s sake, there are an estimated 23 billion animals at any given time languishing away in factory farms, suffering to the max. That’s without factoring in all of the human suffering.

If I were a being out there in the universe, and I knew or came to know about the suffering here, I feel like I wouldn’t be able to live with myself without doing what I could to help.

Comment: The problem is that you can’t liberate people who don’t want to be liberated, i.e., the human soul group. To be blunt about it, we are held hostages here by the Khan Kings, and we think that the prison guards are the legitimate authorities that we should abide by. If we don’t, we will die because it’s the “authorities” that help us get through life and keep the System going. “Life is hard” is a slogan we’ve learned to embrace, and the authorities are there to create stability and order out of chaos. That’s all an illusion, but people are too afraid to take personal responsibility for their lives. IOW, we are so manipulated that we think our guards are our allies; we only need to vote for the right leader, and things will get better.

So, what would happen if beings from outside Earth came to “rescue” us, telling us we should come with them to Orion? The world’s leaders would tell people we are invaded by manipulating forces from other worlds, and they are dangerous. We need to come together and fight these evil aliens. The world population would get together and fight those who came to liberate. People would say, “Earth is our home. Get the hell out of here, vicious ETs!” And there would be a devastating war, or rather, the Orion forces would withdraw so humans would not be hurt. This is why I have stressed that we cannot fight the Khan Kings—not even the world leaders who work for them—they will just be replaced unless we humans come together as one against them, which is very difficult to achieve, as we have seen. The liberation must come from inside ourselves, one by one. We must stop trusting our enemies, do our Inner Work, and leave the Matrix.

I know Orion is working on soulutions, but it’s not an overnight thing. From all I know, they might already have the soulution and are preparing to apply it. Only recently have they had access to the Matrix since it’s secured behind a Frequency Fence, as Marciniak’s Pleiadians call it (the Grid), which comprises our human soul energy, boosted by Spirit. It couldn’t be penetrated until recently when holes in the Grid appeared. You can’t penetrate a Grid that comprises 8 billion souls enhanced with Spirit.

Another obstacle is that everything in this Matrix is an inverted “reality.” What happens in the Greater Universe (Orion) and the Spirit Realm (the Pleroma) is invertedly copied by the Khan Kings. Because of this, Orion can’t just take any action because of how this Matrix is constructed and invertedly copied. For every action, there will be a counter-action. So, Orion must be extra clever to override those barriers.

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[1] The Alien Invader Force, aka the Khan Kings, the Archons, the Overlords, and the Olympians.