Video 227: Q&A Session #53

by Wes Penre and Ariel Glad, June 29, 2020

Questions in this Q&A Session

QUESTION 1: If I am getting gnosis through your work or the Nag Hammadi texts, and I’m still interacting on any social media, does it mean that I’m still giving my consent, and I’ll get trapped in the singularity?

QUESTION 2: How are spirited humans in our current third construction expected to help enlighten the demiurge?  Most spirited humans, even the kindly ones, I find to be incredibly gullible and manipulated to malevolent and self-destructive suggestions.  As Josef Goebbels, Hitler’s minister of propaganda indicated, their truth is the lies constantly repeated by the corporate media.

QUESTION 3: Relating to part 17 of the Gnosis series, I am somewhat unconvinced that a being who could create an entire universe, be it imitative and shoddy, would be so practically ignorant that he (Yaldabaoth) could not determine whether the murdered “Jesus” was on a soul level Sabaoth or Thoth. I would welcome your comment on this.

QUESTION 4: I have some confusion around who Jesus Christ is.  So there’s Thoth who was Enki’s appointee (false Jesus), who Christianity is based on (who was crucified?); Jesus the man (Barabbas who was let go?) who embodied the true spirit of Jesus Christ the Aeon. So, Khan En.lil, who is married to the Queen of Orion (Sophia), who represents (or is?) Jesus Christ, who also is Prince Ninurta and Archangel Michael all at the same time?  Where does the true spirit of Jesus Christ reside now?

QUESTION 5: What if a soul who gets through the Grid but has to make “amends” for their “wrongdoings” on Earth? Will the Orions recommend places to go to do that, so you can one day apply for citizenship in Orion? If “trust” is extremely important will they likely allow you to take the test to get in anyway? What if a soul decides, once outside the Grid, to go elsewhere other than Orion? Will they, once merged with their Oversoul be able to still be a Creator God/Goddess?

QUESTION 6: What really happened to the Dinosaurs that went extinct 65 million years ago? It has been suggested by some that the bones we see today have been “planted” there by scientist which as i see it could not have ALL been planted. Were the Dinosaurs tampered with at some point in their early evolution?


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8 comments

  1. Thank you Wes and Ariel for the sixth level of learning. Question 4 on this Q and A has gave me a better understanding of who Jesus Christ was. I often go back to read and re-read the Gnostic texts, to understand them to the best of my ability.

    1. That’s wonderful to hear, Drew. Yes, the Gnostic texts resonate differently depending on when we read them. A year ago, I tried to dig into them, but it was not the right time. Now it is! And a year from now, I will probably find more nuggets in there.

  2. Hello Wes, Q4 has also clarified who Christ is for me too. I have to ask;
    1. Are there any other Archons who have rebeled against their creator and receieved Spirit from Sophia as well?
    2. If many Archons receive Spirit, could it also assist in waking Yaldabaoth’s Spirit within or is this mission only for us Spirited humans?

    1. The Gnostic texts talk about the Seraphim, the Cherubs, and Sabaoth’s/Ninurta’s Archangels and angels. It seems like at least the Seraphim were once Yaldabaoth’s minions, but they changed sides. Whether they are spirited or not, I don’t know, but my guess is that they do have at least some Spirit in them. Christ used one of the Seraphs when he descended to the Garden of Eden. The mission to wake up Yaldabaoth is a joint mission, but we humans are the ones specifically designated to start that task.

  3. Wes, in the various WPP levels of learning, my understanding was that the characters of Jesus and the Christ were related to Marduk and En.ki, so at what point did you understand a positive version of who Christ was? Also, I will have to re-read your answer to #4, but can you clarify the difference between Christ and Jesus/Yeshua…I’m getting the notion they/he are still not gods to worship…but what is their positive function, and are we supposed to find a way to relate to him/them? Thank you!!

  4. If the kenoma , earth and the archons are to be destroyed at the end of the age as you said in the last gnosis paper, to what extent are humans involved in that process? If humans are as involved in the project of redeeming yaldabaoth as you say, how can this be understood in terms of our involvement in the destruction? If gnosis is about realising how powerful spirited humans are then isn’t it a bit naive to await for a higher power to just come and wipe the slate clean? I’m not sure where I’m going with this other than to say humans are often extremely passive aggressive, not giving credence to our destructive urges. If it’s in the plan that all of this is to be blown to smithereens then wouldn’t living with a sense of purpose also include participating in destruction?

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