Video 234: Q&A Session #60

by Wes Penre and Ariel Glad, October 18, 2020

Questions in this Q&A:

QUESTION 1: Is the Orion Constellation we see in the night sky the real Orion (our home), or is it just a projection, a reflection of the Orion in the 8th and 9th Heaven?

QUESTION 2: What´s the purpose of curing ourselves while we are here if our current range of emotions will not come with us when we die?

QUESTION 3: Who is the Archangel Gabriel mentioned in the Bible and is he connected with Michael/Sabaoth? What’s his role, if he has one?

QUESTION 4: Is it a coincidence we are approaching the Consummation of The Age AND the Singularity?

QUESTION 5: What exactly are the 5 Heavens below the 7? Isn’t locked out of 3D? Can he not still roam his own Universe as well as the Spirit Universe (Pleroma/Void) as he is Interdimensional and Multidimensional with no amnesia?

QUESTION 6: In the Sixth Level of Learning you mention that the Grid will take us out of the lower realms or the Underworld, where we currently reside, and into the Seven Heavens or realm of the Archons so that we can exit this Matrix. You mention in The Wes Penre Papers that the first thing you’ll notice once outside the Grid is the wars in the solar system and, depending on your awareness level, a “lit” Universe. If we are still within the 7 Heavens upon exiting the Grid, we still need to get past Saturn. Was this a simple error you made when writing that in that section of level 6?

QUESTION 7: Is there any connection between the Orion Constellation and the Orion (Orion Queen) you mentioned on the WPP? 

QUESTION 8: Can you tell me of the legend of Centaurs, Minotaurs, Cyclops, and Giants of various sizes? What was their purpose?


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  1. I remember reading somewhere here that Orion is not the only Empire out there, is it still valid? Are there places that are free from both Yaldabaoth and Sophia influences?

    1. The Archons have their own empires, as well, such as the Sirian Empire that I wrote about in the Wes Penre Papers. We live in a universe that was created by Sophia, so the only ‘places’ that are not directly under any of these influences that we know of would be the Pleroma and other universes created by Sophia and other Aeons. However, we don’t have access to these universes. According to the Gnostic texts, humanity will eventually return to the Pleroma.

      1. And that’s it? Either Yald or Sophia? What should someone like me do if I want to stay away from both of them? I’m tired of all these “gods” (to say the least).

            1. @Anonymous ~ “And let Sophia get away with sending us here to suffer and die? Not a chance.”

              Consider that YOU are Sophia. Sophia *is* Wisdom. Are you wise? If so, you are an embodiment of the Archetype of Wisdom. Have you gained wisdom while you are incarnated in this life? If not, why not? Maybe you don’t want that for yourself. Okay. No one is going to force you to be more than you are right now. YOU have to take on that motivation, that challenge, for yourself. You have to pick up your own “cross” and carry it, so to speak. If you don’t want to, then you don’t have to. Your choice.

              Sophia isn’t a person. Sophia isn’t an ET Dragon Queen. Sophia is a quality or one aspect of a Divine State of Being; an Aeon. There are others. We have the potential to embody them all. We also have the choice to strengthen and embody the Archons (as opposed to the Aeons). We get to choose who and what we want to embody and “feed” within ourselves. It makes sense to me, but if you feel that it’s better for you to reject Wisdom, then that’s your choice, as I see it.

          1. Sounds like Yaldo commissioned Joshua and his armies to wipe out all those remnants of giants after the flood.
            31 nefilim kings old Josh took down. A record which still stands to this day.

  2. Q= Are the lesser gods incarnated on Earth at this crucial time? If so, what is their role in our awakening?

    1. We don’t know who is incarnated or not, but usually, they work through the Global Elite or otherwise carefully selected individuals. That doesn’t mean they need to incarnate; they rather control that human’s mind remotely. They can “attach themselves” to certain individuals and work through them. None of the “lesser gods” will have any positive effect on our awakening.

  3. Hello Ariel & Wes,

    I have a few questions.

    Q1. What is the symbology represents on your video? The snake like creature with the sun/star/crown on its head and the half moon and the sun/star beside its body?

    Q2. I heard that the Orion Group and the Orion Empire are not the same. Maybe I even read it in one of your papers, I can’t remember. If they are not the same, who are the Orion Group and where are they located? In Sophia’s universe or one of the Aeons’ heaven?

    Q3. We are trapped in the linear timeline. For us our brief history we know of seems like an eternity especially with all the suffering.

    What our timeframe likes to the Queen and the habitats of the Orion Empire? Days, weeks, months or just a few years in our point of view?

    I realize this is difficult to compare. I remembered one of the episodes of Stargate SG1, where they trapped the replicators in a time dilation field. Within one year, for the replicators 10,000 years went by.

    Thank you

    1. Interestingly, I have read in many places that SG1 is actually real. It was a way to disclose the truth without really doing so to the masses. I don’t really watch TV. I have had an aversion to it for years, long before I became aware of actual reality. I keep thinking maybe I should check it out, but I never do. I have a hard time watching TV or movies anymore knowing what I do now about the industry and the actors and people involved. So I will probably never check it out, but the scenarios portrayed supposedly happened and all the technology they show really exists.

      1. @Shawn
        “Interestingly, I have read in many places that SG1 is actually real. It was a way to disclose the truth without really doing so to the masses.”

        Yes, so as the Star Trek series and other sci-fi movies and related literature. The last time I had a TV was in 2006. I caught SG1 on the Internet a few years after they initially aired the show. Except for the fighting scenes, I liked the characters and the stories. The series portrayed much science and technology, spirituality, metaphysics, different alien factions, and the Global conspiracy on higher levels, all in a convincing way.

        Knowing what I’ve learned in the past years and reading the WP papers and the Gnostic articles, the storylines and everything else they were showing make sense even more. I often wondered if the actors realized that they were a part of a disclosure packaged in entertainment. Many episodes in the series played with the notion of what would happen if the world governments would expose the truth. By seeing the majority of the people today, any disclosure would go down badly. That would be a shortage of foil hats:)

        I read it somewhere the difference between those who don’t care for the genre and the sci-fi fans is that the former questions everything and views it as children’s stories, and the latter authentically believes in it “yes, that’s possible.”

        But as Alex Collier, Andromeda contactee, said once, “it is one thing to believe in alien races living in space ships, and it is another actually to be in one and meet them face to face.” I suppose it would be a bit of a shock for a moment or two.

  4. Archons in the matrix: choose which one.. the red pill or the blue pill?

    Me: who gives you the authority to make me choice between these two pills?

    But i guess we must ignore them (archons) and continue to our journey and dont ever attempt to answer their questions..

    Thanks you wes and ariel for another beautiful insights you shared to us..

    1. @Indeedtoexit ~ “Archons in the matrix: choose which one.. the red pill or the blue pill?

      Me: who gives you the authority to make me choice between these two pills?”

      EXACTLY my way of thinking, as well. WHO SAYS I have to chose one of these options? Well…ultimately *I* am the one who is believing that I only have this choice because someone told me. This is a thought-responsive Universe/reality creation. What are my thoughts creating? Are they creating what I want or are they creating what others are telling me? If I believe it, I will create it. This goes back to being a prisoner under the boot of some dark, fallen angel…Well, WHO SAYS? Who wants me to believe this and create this reality? Who does it benefit? The one with the boot, I say. I’m not creating that reality for myself, anymore. I no longer agree with anyone who wants me to feel and believe that I am a victim of circumstance. The archons are inside of us. They are our shadows. Ignore them – YES. We are only controlled by them when we “listen” to them and do what they want us to do, but they are nothing that exists outside of our own mind. We call this “construct” the matrix, but what if the matrix is ME? What if the matrix is you? Just like I am a Monad, I am a Matrix. I am a Matrix of connective cell structures that form tissues and a variety of systems that operate, grow, and evolve. That’s another way of looking at things, at least.

      1. I agree. We have to question everything. There are days when you are so tired that you just want to shut everything out and don’t think on deeper questions. So Thank you for doing all this for us because it helps to focus on what is important.

  5. Question :
    Aren’t the Yaldabaoth isn’t the same being as Jehovah the god of Jews and that Lucifer is the Sophia the Black Sun that emits Vril or Aurora borealis and show us the way to Agartha (The spiritual world) ?

      1. Another Questions:

        Why do we dream ?

        Is the Earth a Matrix and the Dream world Heavens ?

        Is the “New heavens and earth” is the Singularity between Earth (Matrix) and Dream World (Heavens) ?
        (Bible book of revelation)
        Why do we sometimes see our dead family members and sometimes they are telling they are fine or they invite us and after some time something terrible happens in this Matterial world and our physical body dies

        1. @Kingiux ~ “Another Questions:”

          re: dreaming – I don’t know. In my personal opinion, it’s mostly about processing information/experience. We dream as a way to connect with the subconscious/unconscious aspects of ourselves and those are represented to us as symbols. Take that with a grain of salt because I am, by far, no expert on the matter. I am confident, however, that dreams are one of the tools we have in our toolkit for how to deal with “life”.

          re: Earth=Matrix/dreamworld=Heavens – I guess that’s *one* way to look at it.

          re: “new heavens and earth” (Revelation) – I don’t know. Revelation is HIGHLY allegorical, in my opinion, and I don’t put too much stock in it, to be honest. I’m coming to the conclusion more and more that prophecies are just manipulation and fear-porn for the masses – intentionally so. Anything to keep that fear vibe going…

          re: dead relatives – We see them because they exist within our mind and they can seem very real. The more energy we give to something, the more “form” we give it. In our minds, we have created some fantastic things as well as some very real experiences. Most of it comes from our own intentions/desires/fears and some of those we are not even aware of so when we encounter them in dreams or elsewhere we don’t realize we are creating that experience for ourselves and projecting it or manifesting it in “reality”. *Some of it is manipulation, too, but from what I understand that is very, very rare. Most of it is created by us.*

          ^^^Again…just my conclusions, so don’t take my word for it. Interesting questions, Kingiux. Thank you. 🙂

  6. @Wes have you read essene gospel of peace? I find it very interesting.
    And Jesus answered: “Seek not the law in your scriptures, for the law is life, whereas the scripture is dead. I tell you truly, Moses received not his laws from God in writing, but through the living word. The law is living word of living God to living prophets for living men. In everything that is life is the law written. You find it in the grass, in the tree, in the river, in the mountain, in the birds of heaven, in the fishes of the sea; but seek it chiefly in yourselves.
    For I tell you truly, all living things are nearer to God than the scripture which is without life. God so made life and all living things that they might by the everlasting word teach the laws of the true God to man. God wrote not the laws in the pages of books, but in your heart and in your spirit.
    They are in your breath, your blood, your bone; in your flesh, your bowels, your eyes, your ears, and in every little part of your body. They are present in the air, in the water, in the earth, in the plants, in th e sunbeams, in the depths and in the heights. They all speak to you that you may understand the tongue and the will of the living God. But you shut your eyes that you may not see, and you shut your ears that you may not hear.

    I tell you truly, that the scripture is the work of man, but life and all its hosts are the work of our God. Wherefore do you not listen to the words of God which are written in His works? And wherefore do you study the dead scriptures which are the work of the hands of men?” “How may we read the laws of God elsewhere than in the scriptures? Where are they written? Read them to us from there where you see them, for we know nothing else but the scriptures which we have inherited from our forefathers.

    Tell us the laws of which you speak, that hearing them we may be healed and justified.”

    Jesus said: “You do not understand the words of life, because you are in death. Darkness darkens your eyes and your ears are stopped with deafness. For I tell you, it profits you not at all that you pore over dead scriptures if by your deeds you deny him who has given you the scriptures. I tell you truly, God and his laws are not in that which you do. They are not in gluttony and in wine-bibbing, neither in riotous living, nor in lustfulness, nor in seeking after riches, nor yet in hatred of your enemies. For all these things are far from the true God and from his angels. But all these things come from the kingdom of darkness and the lord of all evils. And all these things do you carry in yourselves; and so the word and the power of God enter not into you, because all manner of evil and all manner of abominations have their dwelling in your body and your spirit. If you will that the living God’s word and his power may enter you, defile not your body and your spirit; for the body is the temple of the spirit, and the spirit is the temple of God. Purify, therefore, the temple, that the Lord of the temple may dwell therein and occupy a place that is worthy of him. “And from all temptations of your body and your spirit, coming from Satan, withdraw beneath the shadow of God’s heaven.

  7. Here is a thought, dont mean to upset anyone.

    If God is all Power! All Creation! All Things! Nothing is without his Power or without his Creation. What makes you think you could possible be separated from God? What Give you Life if not He that is all Power, all Things?

    Luke 17
    20Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be observed, 21nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”

    The Law is LOVE! Is it so hard to believe that we all are God? We cant be separated from the Power of all Things. Each and every moment in our lives we are Creating. When you awake in the morning the power of God becomes aware, you plant your feet on the ground. God starts creating. For every desire that moves your body to do something becomes creation. When you take that nice hot shower, eat your food, interact with others, work your job and lay your head down to sleep. You have Created by the Power of God!

    You see God is with you at all time, and so to is the Devil! For as we create everyday we are faced with the choice to choose how to use Gods Power.

    Do you obey his Law of Love? Do you speak Truth to all?

    You may think I Am Crazy, but I tell you this. No matter who you are, All your secrets, your lies, your fears, your guilt and yours Truths, you can hide from everyone you know! But that one presents within yourself, that knows all these things about you my friends. Is God the Spirit of Truth!

  8. In Level 4 you say that our bodies are what make us divine. That we can have a body and also nanotravel. But so can Enki and his cohorts, so I dont understand why that would differentiate us from them, because it seems they have this too.

  9. I think I just figured it out. They are cut off from the spiritual realm (8 and 9) and they need us to get there.

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